Zelensky meets with Biden...

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

So legislatively expand LEGAL immigration. But justifying it by saying "it works" is horseshit. 890 people died trying to cross the southern border illegally last year, and over 680 so far this year so far. That doesn't count those who die or are killed making the trip north through Mexico.

Throw in the folks on the terrorist watch list who get in, the drugs that get in, and the human trafficking going on. This is what you and the NY Times call a system that's working?

That's sick, and a new low even for you.

You obviously didn't read the article. The author is emphasizing the dynamic whereby American employers, like Trump himself, and the American economy at large depend upon upon immigrant labor (hence the need for comprehensive immigration reform).

Speaking of the Lying Dotard, while he was railing against immigrants, he employs them throughout his company. Whassup with that?

OSSINING, N.Y. — For nearly two decades, the Trump Organization has relied on a roving crew of Latin American employees to build fountains and waterfalls, sidewalks and rock walls at the company’s winery and its golf courses from New York to Florida.

Other employees at Trump clubs were so impressed by the laborers — who did strenuous work with heavy stone — that they nicknamed them “Los Picapiedras,” Spanish for “the Flintstones.”

For years, their ranks have included workers who entered the United States illegally, according to two former members of the crew. Another employee, still with the company, said that remains true today.

President Trump “doesn’t want undocumented people in the country,” said one worker, Jorge Castro, a 55-year-old immigrant from Ecuador without legal status who left the company in April after nine years. “But at his properties, he still has them.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...4d8_story.html

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by whell

There you go talking out your ass again.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kevin-m...indsey-graham/

Washington — House Speaker Kevin McCarthy said lawmakers wanting more funding for Ukraine will have to give in on border security funding.

"The priority for me is America and our borders," the California Republican told "Face the Nation" on Sunday. "Now, I support being able to make sure Ukraine has the weapons that they need, but I firmly support the border first. So we've got to find a way that we can do this together."

Quoting McCarthy is a sick joke and him claiming that America and securing the southern border as his top priority is even sicker. All he wants is to be speaker of the House of Clowns and the McCarthy led House has not done much legislating either, or is it none?

The so called border encroachment has been going on for few decades and every administration has addressed it in one way or another, so what is different this time? America needs immigrant labor and they will keep coming. Politicians will keep paying lip service. And may I ask, where is the wall we were all promised or should we be asking Steve Bannon?

There has never been a dedicated effort by either party to stem the flow of illegal immigrants since the election funding capitalists need their cheap unregulated labor desperately (even in red states). So this is simply more lip service and Biden bashing. The only way to prevent illegal immigration from the southern border is if Mexico steps up its game and why would they? Money the illegal immigrants repatriate to Mexico is one reason they won't.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by whell

So legislatively expand LEGAL immigration. But justifying it by saying "it works" is horseshit. 890 people died trying to cross the southern border illegally last year, and over 680 so far this year so far. That doesn't count those who die or are killed making the trip north through Mexico.

Throw in the folks on the terrorist watch list who get in, the drugs that get in, and the human trafficking going on. This is what you and the NY Times call a system that's working?

That's sick, and a new low even for you.

And somehow alt-right shitwits like you persist in blaming the whole situation, all the sex trafficking, all the drug trafficking, all the murder and mayhem on US Democratic politicians. Like US Democratic politicians have anything to do with the inhumanity perped on Guatemalan, Salvadorian, or Honduran people, by each other.

But if you want to spew your terrorist bullshit around, here ya go...if there's anybody who oughta be thrown on a terrorist watch list, it's white supremacist christian nationalists like you.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

There you go talking out your ass again.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kevin-m...indsey-graham/

Washington — House Speaker Kevin McCarthy said lawmakers wanting more funding for Ukraine will have to give in on border security funding.

"The priority for me is America and our borders," the California Republican told "Face the Nation" on Sunday. "Now, I support being able to make sure Ukraine has the weapons that they need, but I firmly support the border first. So we've got to find a way that we can do this together."

Are you really so blindingly ignorant as to not recognize this as Qevin rationalizing/excusing the nihilism and cynicism of his caucus and their fealty to Trump's patron Vladimir Putin?

The GOP doesn't actually care about border security. They care about maintaining border security as a wedge issue (the House GOP killed comprehensive immigration reform introduced by Dubya in 2007 and Obama in 2013) while their donors (and Trump himself) continue to use undocumented labor. Meanwhile, while yammering constantly about border security, the GOP supported legislation that would have drastically cut CBP funding in FY 2021, 2022 and 2023.

The GOP sure is fortunate to have such gullible, credulous people such as you in their base.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Are you really so blindingly ignorant as to not recognize this as Qevin rationalizing/excusing the nihilism and cynicism of his caucus and their fealty to Trump's patron Vladimir Putin?

Are you really so brainwashed that you really beleive that shit?

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Are you really so blindingly ignorant as to not recognize this as Qevin rationalizing/excusing the nihilism and cynicism of his caucus and their fealty to Trump's patron Vladimir Putin?

The GOP doesn't actually care about border security. They care about maintaining border security as a wedge issue (the House GOP killed comprehensive immigration reform introduced by Dubya in 2007 and Obama in 2013) while their donors (and Trump himself) continue to use undocumented labor. Meanwhile, while yammering constantly about border security, the GOP supported legislation that would have drastically cut CBP funding in FY 2021, 2022 and 2023.

The GOP sure is fortunate to have such gullible, credulous people such as you in their base.

It's been clear for a long time that the one and only, singular reason any Republican politician supports or opposes any measure involves votes. Nothing else counts, nothing else matters, and that includes the fucking welfare of the citizens they represent and certainly not the citizens anywhere else since they can't get their votes.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Are you really so brainwashed that you really beleive that shit?

So, you actually believe that Trump, McCarthy and the FreeDumb Caucus clowns have principles and those principles include serving the general welfare of the American people within the constraints of ethics, laws, morality and the Constitution when they couldn't even come up with a party platform last time Trump ran (other than fealty to Trump)?

If so, you're far more delusional than I thought you were.

Consider just in the past few days:

• Republican presidential debate (minus their leading candidate) devolves into an indecipherable shouting match.
• The House GOP convenes an impeachment inquiry without evidence.
• The House GOP threatens to shut down government without articulating their demands.
• Trump said that the departing Chairman of the Joint Chiefs (that he appointed) should be executed and that NBC should be prosecuted for running stories unfavorable to him.
• Their prohibitive favorite for president is in court today after a judge found him liable for a decade of persistent financial, bank, tax and insurance fraud (a few weeks after another judge ruled that he's a rapist).

And you're denying the nihilism and cynicism of today's GOP? LOL.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Are you really so blindingly ignorant as to not recognize this as Qevin rationalizing/excusing the nihilism and cynicism of his caucus and their fealty to Trump's patron Vladimir Putin?

Originally Posted by whell

Are you really so brainwashed that you really believe that shit?

Just a clarification. The first part, the "Are you really so blindingly ignorant" part or the "rationalizing/excusing" part? Just asking 8-]

[Dondilion]

Cynicism/Nihilism.

Hispanics turned out heavily for Obama in his first run for president. Obama had promised serious emigration reform. He won with three hammers...presidency, senate and house of representatives.He then proceeded to put his emigration promises on the back burner.
In two years he lost one of his hammers. Later he acquired the name "Deporter In Chief".

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

Cynicism/Nihilism.

Hispanics turned out heavily for Obama in his first run for president. Obama had promised serious emigration reform. He won with three hammers...presidency, senate and house of representatives.He then proceeded to put his emigration promises on the back burner.
In two years he lost one of his hammers. Later he acquired the name "Deporter In Chief".

He shot his wad with Obamacare and John Boehner refused to have a vote on the immigration plan. As for the "Deporter in Chief" moniker, Whell has been trying to convince me that Democrats oppose controlling the border. What gives?