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Old 09-29-2023, 03:55 PM
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Undocumented immigration and drug smuggling are two separate unrelated issues. Smuggling generally comes thru checkpoints, migrant mules not so much.
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Old 09-29-2023, 04:07 PM
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With the level of racism in this country it matters little on what the reasons are.

All is needed is seeing those..."others" around.

The Leadership of the Democratic party better deal with this or it will deal with them.....
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Old 09-30-2023, 08:47 AM
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With the level of racism in this country it matters little on what the reasons are.

All is needed is seeing those..."others" around.

The Leadership of the Democratic party better deal with this or it will deal with them.....

Nobody knows what to do about the onslaught of the poor and oppressed of the Americas south of our border. It's human nature for those in positions of power, control, and authority to perp maltreatment, abuse and neglect on the poor and powerless. So the poor, the powerless, and the victims end up at the southern border of this country. Republicans have no better idea of what to do about it than Democrats.

The only reason why it seems like the Democrats are the one's who need to do something about it is because the primary difference between the parties is that Republicans have historically been so much better at, and more likely to, point their gnarly stink fingers of blame for it in somebody/anybody else's direction. Republicans are so good at...



Way better at that, than they are at any fucking thing else.


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Old 09-30-2023, 09:57 AM
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Nobody knows what to do about the onslaught of the poor and oppressed of the Americas south of our border. It's human nature for those in positions of power, control, and authority to perp maltreatment, abuse and neglect on the poor and powerless. So the poor, the powerless, and the victims end up at the southern border of this country. Republicans have no better idea of what to do about it than Democrats.

The only reason why it seems like the Democrats are the one's who need to do something about it is because the primary difference between the parties is that Republicans have historically been so much better at, and more likely to, point their gnarly stink fingers of blame for it in somebody/anybody else's direction. Republicans are so good at...



Way better at that, than they are at any fucking thing else.



First of all, we have lost control when people from countries with no common boarder reach ours. Passing through many other countries in order to achieve this entry.

I think the days of accepting those oppressed needs to be looked at with new eyes. My feelings are send them back across no giving them a date to show up for processing. Send them back at the boarder.

Also any landlord of employer who rent to, hires undocumented workers receive hefty fines. Like in the form of seizures if repeat offenders.

Like in other countries require a command of the language used, here being English and a job if of age.

Biden needs to seen doing something. Right now!
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Old 09-30-2023, 04:15 PM
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First of all, we have lost control when people from countries with no common boarder reach ours. Passing through many other countries in order to achieve this entry.

I think the days of accepting those oppressed needs to be looked at with new eyes. My feelings are send them back across no giving them a date to show up for processing. Send them back at the boarder.

Also any landlord of employer who rent to, hires undocumented workers receive hefty fines. Like in the form of seizures if repeat offenders.

Like in other countries require a command of the language used, here being English and a job if of age.

Biden needs to seen doing something. Right now!
Illegal immigration is a messy business that neither Democrat or Republican administrations have had success controlling, and has been greatly exacerbated by American businesses that continue to hire illegal immigrants.
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Old 09-30-2023, 04:47 PM
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Biden administration "asylum ban" for illegal immigrants reinstated:

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/0...olicy-00109797
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Old 09-30-2023, 05:29 PM
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First of all, we have lost control when people from countries with no common boarder reach ours. Passing through many other countries in order to achieve this entry.

I think the days of accepting those oppressed needs to be looked at with new eyes. My feelings are send them back across no giving them a date to show up for processing. Send them back at the boarder.

Also any landlord of employer who rent to, hires undocumented workers receive hefty fines. Like in the form of seizures if repeat offenders.

Like in other countries require a command of the language used, here being English and a job if of age.

Biden needs to seen doing something. Right now!
The first thing that needs to be addressed is this country's compliance with the 1967 Protocol to the 1951 Refugee Convention. Over 100 countries are signatories to the Convention/Protocol or both. Signatory nations have agreed to the terms as described in the following from Wikipedia...

Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees

A number of the things you want are direct violations of the Refugee Convention agreement. How a legitimate refugee gets to a sanctuary country should have nothing to do with their eligibility for asylum. How many countries they might need to travel through should have no bearing on their application for asylum.

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Old 09-30-2023, 06:00 PM
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Times change and so should our immigration policies. With I suspect the effects of climate change being behind a good portion of driving issues causing migrants fleeing towards the poles.

The decisions ahead need to be discussed and humanly implemented. New laws and actions. Just allowing without a better plan for the future not going to be well received.

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Old 09-30-2023, 06:38 PM
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Abetting the conditions that produce this by quiet acquiescence to them is reprehensable, and no solution.
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DHS Fact Sheet on "Actions to increase Border Enforcement and Accelerate Processing for Work Authorizations." Release Date: September 20, 2023

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2023/09/20/...ncrease-border
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