Zelensky meets with Biden...

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

So the newness or lack thereof makes it wrong.

Are you against the aid or what you perceive to be a poor audit trail for the aid? I think you're pretending to be the latter while actually the former.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

So the newness or lack thereof makes it wrong.

I was not commenting on right or wrong, just that Rand Paul has sang this tune before. So not breathtaking news to me. Usual funding games played by the GQP aligned members of Congress.

As to Ukraine itself, I do believe that funding Ukraine is a very good idea to keep Putin busy and broke. I am pro Democracy, pro Democratic.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Realism is that, in Ukrainian hands, American (and other Western) weapons have destroyed 50% of Putin's armed forces at an expenditure of less than 5% of our defense budget. An absolute bargain in terms of reining in a mad butcher at war with the West.

Another bullshit.

Russia in near-modern times was never a threat to the West in conventional terms. After General Cavoli made the observation that Russia's real threat, its nuclear one has not been diminished his verbatim speech was removed from the internet and placed under classification.

The quoted argument above is a projection of the hustlers of the MIC.

The reality is the longer the war continues, the more Ukraine disappears.

Recently there was a march in London of Ukrainians, mostly women declaring that they are not going back to Ukraine. Ukraine asked other European countries to send back military-aged Ukrainian males and the countries refused the request.

The new narrative from the hustlers is that Ukraine has become inured to pain.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

I was not commenting on right or wrong, just that Rand Paul has sang this tune before. So not breathtaking news to me. Usual funding games played by the GQP aligned members of Congress.

As to Ukraine itself, I do believe that funding Ukraine is a very good idea to keep Putin busy and broke. I am pro Democracy, pro Democratic.

But you would like the use of the funds to be relatively free from fraud?

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Are you against the aid or what you perceive to be a poor audit trail for the aid? I think you're pretending to be the latter while actually the former.

I am pretending by my supporting the call for a special inspector general?

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

But you would like the use of the funds to be relatively free from fraud?

You may like the use of the funds to be relatively free from fraud but Rand Paul and the GQP would like the funding to dry up completely.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

But you would like the use of the funds to be relatively free from fraud?

Did we have a Fraud brigade for Iraq or Afghanistan?
Or Covid?
Or Subprime bailout?

This is stirring the pot hoping it turns brown and stinks.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

I am pretending by my supporting the call for a special inspector general?

Both DOD and State have independent IG's already.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Are you against the aid or what you perceive to be a poor audit trail for the aid? I think you're pretending to be the latter while actually the former.

Every chunk spewed out from his festering pie hole is politicized. It serves no purpose other than to further the elections of seditionist Republicans.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Every chunk spewed out from his festering pie hole is politicized. It serves no purpose other than to further the elections of seditionist Republicans.

I think he is more interested in advancing Putin's agenda that the GOP's, though nowadays they largely coincide.