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08-31-2023, 08:59 AM
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He had already spoken to the nation and had multiple interactions with officials in Hawaii about Maui prior to having a question shouted at him that he couldn't hear while he was vacationing on the beach. The horror.
You certainly are quick to pick up on Fox News agitprop. If you truly had concerns about politicians showing empathy, you would have started years ago with your favorite orange-hued sociopath.
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So what? It was somehow impossible even to provide a basic comment that showed empathy. Something like, "I have no additional comments at this time, but rest assured our administration is fully engaged to support the people of Maui."
Or maybe: "I'll have more to say on this later today (or whenever), but our thoughts are with the people of Maui."
Would that have been so hard?
As far as your stupid and thoughtless "agitprop" comment, please try for just a moment to be a decent human. This kind of thing matters to people. Even folks at CNN get it. This piece frames it perfectly: https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/17/opini...zer/index.html
The author compares Biden's "No comment" to Bush's Katrina moments:
A photograph of him sitting on Air Force One flying above New Orleans turned into a symbol of his indifference. Bush later admitted that the image resulted in voters seeing him as “detached and uncaring, no question about it.”
For all of Bush's short-comings, at least he was man enough to own it.
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08-31-2023, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
He had already spoken to the nation and had multiple interactions with officials in Hawaii about Maui prior to having a question shouted at him that he couldn't hear while he was vacationing on the beach. The horror.
You certainly are quick to pick up on Fox News agitprop. If you truly had concerns about politicians showing empathy, you would have started years ago with your favorite orange-hued sociopath.
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Ah, it was a shouted question, on an occasion of transfering between modes of transportation. The President owed no response at all. 'No comment' was a superfluous, undeserved courtesy.
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08-31-2023, 10:00 AM
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So what? It was somehow impossible even to provide a basic comment that showed empathy. Something like, "I have no additional comments at this time, but rest assured our administration is fully engaged to support the people of Maui."
Or maybe: "I'll have more to say on this later today (or whenever), but our thoughts are with the people of Maui."
Would that have been so hard?
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Maybe if he were more like this guy eh' whell?
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08-31-2023, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
So what? It was somehow impossible even to provide a basic comment that showed empathy. Something like, "I have no additional comments at this time, but rest assured our administration is fully engaged to support the people of Maui."
Or maybe: "I'll have more to say on this later today (or whenever), but our thoughts are with the people of Maui."
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His "no comment" response to a shouted question was on August 13.
Fully 4 days earlier on August 9 (the same day that the state of Hawaii declared it an emergency, Biden released a statement about the August 8 Lahaina fire:
Jill and I send our deepest condolences to the families of those who lost loved ones in the wildfires in Maui, and our prayers are with those who have seen their homes, businesses, and communities destroyed. We are grateful to the brave firefighters and first responders who continue to run toward danger, putting themselves in harm’s way to save lives.
I have ordered all available Federal assets on the Islands to help with response. The Hawaiian National Guard has mobilized Chinook Helicopters to help with fire suppression and search and rescue on the Island of Maui. The U.S. Coast Guard and Navy Third Fleets are supporting response and rescue efforts. The Army is providing Black Hawk Helicopters to fight the fires on the Big Island. The Department of Transportation is working with commercial airlines to evacuate tourists from Maui, and the Department of the Interior and the United States Department of Agriculture stand ready to support post fire recovery efforts.
I urge all residents to continue to follow evacuation orders, listen to the instructions of first responders and officials, and stay alert.
Compare this to Trump's response in Puerto Rico fully 2 weeks after a hurricane ravaged the island at which he callously threw paper towels to desperate hurricane victims:
The mayor of Puerto Rico's capital, San Juan, has described Donald Trump's visit to the hurricane-hit island as "insulting" and called him a "miscommunicator-in-chief".
Mayor Carmen Yulin Cruz described his televised meeting with officials as a "PR, 17-minute meeting".
The sight of him throwing paper towels to people in the crowd was "terrible and abominable", she added.
Mr Trump tweeted it had been a "great day" in Puerto Rico.
And after his tone-deaf, non-empathetic response, Trump doubled-down on Twitter:
"The fact is that Puerto Rico has been destroyed by two hurricanes. Big decisions will have to be made as to the cost of its rebuilding!"
Is this the kind of empathy you want Biden to emulate? And, yes you really are stupid enough to regurgitate Fox News' baseless agitprop.
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08-31-2023, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
As far as your stupid and thoughtless "agitprop" comment, please try for just a moment to be a decent human. This kind of thing matters to people. Even folks at CNN get it. This piece frames it perfectly: https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/17/opini...zer/index.html
The author compares Biden's "No comment" to Bush's Katrina moments:
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No, she didn't but his "selective interpretation" of the article would let him say that.
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Originally Posted by whell
So what? It was somehow impossible even to provide a basic comment that showed empathy. Something like, "I have no additional comments at this time, but rest assured our administration is fully engaged to support the people of Maui."
Or maybe: "I'll have more to say on this later today (or whenever), but our thoughts are with the people of Maui."
Would that have been so hard?
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When one is fed a steady diet of "agitprop" one begins to think as they do. Radicalization if you will.
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08-31-2023, 10:39 AM
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And, yes you really are stupid enough to regurgitate Fox News' baseless agitprop.
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And yes, you really are stupid enough to:
A) Ignore the possibility that folks disagree with your opinion, as the piece from CNN demonstrates.
B) Provide cover for President Pseudonym.
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08-31-2023, 10:40 AM
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No, she didn't but his "selective interpretation" of the article would let him say that.
When one is fed a steady diet of "agitprop" one begins to think as they do. Radicalization if you will.
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You and Finn need to get a room.
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08-31-2023, 10:44 AM
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Ohh, the pseudonym thing, LOL. Right out of Reich-wing agitprop. So everyone that uses one for an email addy is a criminal or is it just "crooked Joe Biden"? Well lock me up because I've done it too. That guy whell is hilarious. Obviously he's missed his calling.
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08-31-2023, 10:49 AM
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Get a room he says. We've already got one. Right inside his head.
But really, I think the "Murderous GOP Rhetoric" part of the thread title that has him triggered. He probably feels obligated to defend his fellow travelers no matter what.
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08-31-2023, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
And yes, you really are stupid enough to:
A) Ignore the possibility that folks disagree with your opinion, as the piece from CNN demonstrates.
B) Provide cover for President Pseudonym.
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A) I presented irrefutable facts that show that you and the CNN opinion piece are dead wrong (Biden released an empathetic statement and initiated a federal response on Lahaina fully 4 days before the shouted question during his beach vacation and on the very same day that the state of Hawaii declared an emergency).
B) John Barron, John Miller, Carolin Gallego and David Dennison would like a word.
Why can't you simply admit "Oops, I fucked up and was wrong?"
Meanwhile, I still await your response as to why right wing extremism is responsible for 75% of domestic terror events and murders and why conservative politicians and clergy don't speak up in an effort to reverse this trend (as opposed to rhetorically supporting it).
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