Ohio Votes Today

[Dondilion]

What obtains or what is structured is that akin to rule by elders. The "elders" can put aside the wishes of the majority and the elders have life tenure.

National referendum on critical issues is the essence of majority rule.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

What obtains or what is structured is that akin to rule by elders. The "elders" can put aside the wishes of the majority and the elders have life tenure.

National referendum on critical issues is the essence of majority rule.

Tyranny is tyranny.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by bobabode

The California Supreme court protects us from illegal referendums. You have a very skewed idea of how government works here. BTW Which former Soviet republic were you raised in?

Look up California Prop 8 & 187 for examples.

You are bogged down in Soviet arena.

I am not. Legal referendums are the closest to majority rule. No one is referring to illegal referendum.

Abortion is an issue used by both parties for political ends.Why not put it directly to the people?

[Dondilion]

Yes, a national referendum on abortion.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

Yes, a national referendum on abortion.

Impossible, the Scotus left to individual states overturning Roe vs. Wade. How do you have a national referendum if its not binding on individual states?

Might as well go with the polls, latest Gallup is 69% pro abortion.

But forced birthing is a red meat issue for the Red states. This is why residents of individual states are holding ballot referendums.

[Oerets]

With this vote going down like this. Elected officials would rethink their approach. To modify or double down...

They have it appears doubled down! Heard reporting where it is being suggested they try it again during the upcoming Senate/Presidential election thinking higher chances of passing...

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by Oerets

With this vote going down like this. Elected officials would rethink their approach. To modify or double down...

They have it appears doubled down! Heard reporting where it is being suggested they try it again during the upcoming Senate/Presidential election thinking higher chances of passing...

It will be interesting to see which Repukes embrace this and which run away from it.

[Pio1980]

Granting legal personhood to a fertilized egg, zygote, embryo, or fetus is fraught with unintended complex consequences.

[bobabode]

"Steve Bannon raged while interviewing a priest on his podcast following this week's Republican defeat in a vote in Ohio, arguing that unless the anti-abortion movement reorganizes itself, top GOP donors will begin pulling their money from activist groups.

"These are not left-wing places, Kansas and Ohio, brother. I mean, you're not going to get more MAGA," Bannon told Frank Pavone, a laicized Catholic priest and the national director of anti-abortion group Priests for Life, during Wednesday's episode of Bannon's War Room podcast. "Ohio is the bastion of MAGA."

Bannon went on: "I'm telling you that if [the anti-abortion movement] doesn't get organized, and I mean organized quickly, there's a lot of voices in the donor community and others saying, 'Hey, you know, what are we doing here? Because these guys are a drag right now when we can't afford it.'"

On Tuesday, voters in Ohio, which has become a Republican stronghold in recent elections, rebuked a GOP-backed effort known as Issue 1, shooting down a measure that would have made it harder to pass future amendments to the state constitution. Although the issue of abortion was not directly on the ballot, the vote sets up a showdown in November, when an amendment enshrining abortion rights in Ohio's constitution will come up for vote. Issue 1's defeat has been largely seen as a proxy win for abortion-rights advocates." NW
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...71ccd0b7&ei=48

Lovely to hear Steve Bannon melting down like the conjob snowflake he is.
Overreaching GQPers are getting a serious civics studies lesson administered by American women and their allies.

[RickeyM]

What is it with these people? The majority of Americans, Republicans included, are in favor of abortions being available. Why are they so dead set on getting them outlawed?