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08-07-2023, 09:28 PM
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Looks like I struck a nerve. You're all spun up now because I suggested it was possible that Joe Biden might have lied? That's rich!
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Spun up because you struck a nerve? You flatter yourself. Unlike you, I'm start enough to realize that any story contrived and pushed by Guiliani and then further propagated by Jordan and Comer is almost certainly bullshit from the get-go.
You do realize that Guiliani got disbarred for his lies and it is likely to be indicted soon for conspiracy to defraud the USA and racketeering, eh? And that Jordan helped cover up nearly two hundred sexual assaults and that Comer beat up his college girlfriend? I tend not to treat claims from such cretins as gospel. The fact that you do says more about you than your breathless allegations say about Joe Biden.
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08-07-2023, 11:43 PM
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Poor Whell has lost it.
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08-07-2023, 11:57 PM
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Is it my imagination but do whell's deflections coincide with news of Donny's troubles getting a lot of attention? Reich-wing media goes berserk and whell responds does he?
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08-08-2023, 06:21 AM
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Is it my imagination but do whell's deflections coincide with news of Donny's troubles getting a lot of attention? Reich-wing media goes berserk and whell responds does he?
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He can be relied upon to parrot wingnut media's outrage du jour. He is just one small node in their echo chamber and baffled that we're not as credulous as he is.
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08-08-2023, 07:53 AM
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You do realize that Guiliani got disbarred for his lies and it is likely to be indicted soon for conspiracy to defraud the USA and racketeering, eh? And that Jordan helped cover up nearly two hundred sexual assaults and that Comer beat up his college girlfriend? I tend not to treat claims from such cretins as gospel. The fact that you do says more about you than your breathless allegations say about Joe Biden.
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Speaking of lying, you're doing a fine job of it.
1) Guiliani was not disbarred. A disciplinary panel of the DC bar voted to recommend disbarment. It now goes to a larger disciplinary board of the DC bar for further deliberations. Ultimately, if Guiliani and the DC bar cannot agree on a pathway to settle the case, his status to practice law in DC would be decided by the DC Court of Appeals. So, that's lie number 1.
2) There is no proof that Jordan covered up anything. Both he and the OSU head coach state that neither of them were aware of Dr. Strauss's conduct. The MOST you could say is that it is alleged that Jordan was aware, but to state conclusively as you did that "Jordan helped cover up nearly two hundred sexual assaults" is certainly not factual. That's lie number 2.
3) Rumors about Comer's college relationship are old news. The allegations surfaced during Comer's run for KY governor. They remain allegations. Such allegations are coincidentally the weapon of choice, as we saw more recently with Justice Cavenaugh's confirmation hearings. Regardless, you stated conclusively that "Comer beat up his girlfriend". That's lie number 3.
4) You stated: "I tend not to treat claims from such cretins as gospel.". Your track record indicates that you actually do. You take at face value the words of known, serial liars like Joe Biden. I was tempted to suggest that this was lie number 4, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and simply chalk it up to bad judgment.
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08-08-2023, 07:55 AM
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Is it my imagination but do whell's deflections coincide with news of Donny's troubles getting a lot of attention? Reich-wing media goes berserk and whell responds does he?
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I suppose it never occurred to consider that both sides might be dirty here? This is Washington DC we're talking about, and the city is certainly not populated with angels.
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08-08-2023, 08:43 AM
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I suppose it never occurred to consider that both sides might be dirty here? This is Washington DC we're talking about, and the city is certainly not populated with angels.
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And it never seems to have occurred to you that this is precisely the objective of the Comer-Jordan Follies - to give the impression that Joe Biden is as morally and criminally corrupt as Trump. It takes a special dimwit like you to buy into it.
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08-08-2023, 08:56 AM
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Speaking of lying, you're doing a fine job of it.
1) Guiliani was not disbarred. A disciplinary panel of the DC bar voted to recommend disbarment. It now goes to a larger disciplinary board of the DC bar for further deliberations. Ultimately, if Guiliani and the DC bar cannot agree on a pathway to settle the case, his status to practice law in DC would be decided by the DC Court of Appeals. So, that's lie number 1.
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Guiliani law license was suspended in NY while further disbarment proceedings occurred in NY and DC. In any event, he was identified as a conspirator in Trump's effort to defraud the USA and deprive citizens of 7 states of their civil rights.
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2) There is no proof that Jordan covered up anything. Both he and the OSU head coach state that neither of them were aware of Dr. Strauss's conduct. The MOST you could say is that it is alleged that Jordan was aware, but to state conclusively as you did that "Jordan helped cover up nearly two hundred sexual assaults" is certainly not factual. That's lie number 2.
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A denial by Jordan means nothing. OTOH, six former OSU athletes said that Jordan did indeed know and thereby enable their abuse. As for "no proof," the Supreme Court recently ruled that there is indeed a worthy case that should move forward.
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3) Rumors about Comer's college relationship are old news. The allegations surfaced during Comer's run for KY governor. They remain allegations. Such allegations are coincidentally the weapon of choice, as we saw more recently with Justice Cavenaugh's confirmation hearings. Regardless, you stated conclusively that "Comer beat up his girlfriend". That's lie number 3.
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His girlfriend says that he did indeed beat her and also compelled her to get an abortion (despite his "pro-life" stance).
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4) You stated: "I tend not to treat claims from such cretins as gospel.". Your track record indicates that you actually do. You take at face value the words of known, serial liars like Joe Biden. I was tempted to suggest that this was lie number 4, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and simply chalk it up to bad judgment.
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A MAGAt accusing the current president of being a serial liar while reflexively defending a guy who told an average of 21 documented lies per day for every day of his presidency. I didn't say I believed Joe Biden's personal take on Burisma. I do believe, however, the sworn testimony of Marie Jovanovitch, Kurt Volker, Fiona Hill, George Kent, Gordon Sondland, and Bill Taylor, all of whom said Rudy's Burisma conspiratorial fantasy was bullshit.
Leave it to you to defend a coup conspirator, an enabler of sexual abuse and a "pro-lifer" who assaulted his girlfriend and compelled her to get an abortion. I guess it makes sense because your Dear Leader resides in similar cesspool of amorality, immorality and dishonesty.
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08-08-2023, 09:08 AM
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3) Rumors about Comer's college relationship are old news. The allegations surfaced during Comer's run for KY governor. They remain allegations. Such allegations are coincidentally the weapon of choice, as we saw more recently with Justice Cavenaugh's confirmation hearings. Regardless, you stated conclusively that "Comer beat up his girlfriend". That's lie number 3.
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It did not surface, she actually wrote a letter to the newspaper in her name. And the abortion allegation was also stated. Wo where is the "devastating lawsuit" which is a weapon of choice for Repugnants.
As for Cavenaugh, why did the Repugnants refuse to investigate the allegations by the FBI? the accusation was more than credible.
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"Did Jamie Comer ever hit me? Yes," wrote Marilyn Thomas, who attended Western Kentucky University with Comer in the early 1990s.
Comer's lawyer, Dick Plymale, of Lexington, said in an interview that Comer "profusely denies" all the allegations in the letter and promised a "devastating lawsuit" against the newspaper if it published the story.
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https://www.courier-journal.com/stor...ence/26901137/
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08-08-2023, 09:45 AM
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Is it my imagination but do whell's deflections coincide with news of Donny's troubles getting a lot of attention? Reich-wing media goes berserk and whell responds does he?
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Originally Posted by whell
I suppose it never occurred to consider that both sides might be dirty here? This is Washington DC we're talking about, and the city is certainly not populated with angels.
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aaannnd he replies about his deflections with a deflection. That's whell, that's...
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