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07-30-2023, 09:15 AM
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Oh great, now well have a week (or more) of MAGAt's repeating that nonsense that tRump had every right to destroy the evidence.
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07-30-2023, 10:25 AM
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^^Like when the MAGAts claimed that the papers he took were his since he had planned on declassifying them. This was not Faux, but Trump himself IIRC who made the claim.
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07-30-2023, 07:00 PM
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'Real consequences': Report warns Trump could use Truth Social to 'inflict real-world damage'
https://www.rawstory.com/amp/truth-s...207-2662618207
Yes. There are many MAGAMorons out there far more deranged than even Whell, who will do whatever this fascist tells them to do.
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07-30-2023, 07:27 PM
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I am not sure he can mobilize his cult strictly via Truth Social since it only has 2 million active users, But if other alt-right outlets pick up and amplify his rants and cries for help, that is a different matter, but I still don't see it. Very few showed up for his cuffing ceremony in Miami Federal court though he asked for a show of power.
https://www.searchlogistics.com/lear...al-statistics/
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07-31-2023, 08:08 PM
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Former Democratic FCC commissioner and PBS President Ervin Duggan and onetime Weekly Standard editor and Fox News contributor Bill Kristol have teamed up to back a Federal Communications Commission inquiry into whether Fox has the character qualifications to hold its 29 TV station licenses.
The Media and Democracy Project (MAD), citing Fox’s settlement of the Dominion Voting Systems lawsuit over election misinformation, earlier this month challenged the renewal of Fox’s WTFX Philadelphia, and by extension the company’s character qualifications for holding any TV station licenses at all.
https://www.nexttv.com/news/ervin-du...llenge-inquiry
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08-01-2023, 07:07 AM
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91% who trust Fox don't think Trump committed serious crimes
85% who trust Fox say Republicans must stand by Trump
83% who trust Fox don't see wrongdoing on 1/6
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...poll-desantis/
This is the kind of shit that should help making the case that the FCC broadcast for Fox should be revoked.
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08-01-2023, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
91% who trust Fox don't think Trump committed serious crimes
85% who trust Fox say Republicans must stand by Trump
83% who trust Fox don't see wrongdoing on 1/6
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...poll-desantis/
This is the kind of shit that should help making the case that the FCC broadcast for Fox should be revoked.
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What about this "kind of shit" from the NY Times:
(Asked of Democratic primary voters) Regardless of who you prefer in the Democratic primary, do you think the Democratic Party should renominate Joe Biden as the party's candidate for president in 2024, or do you think the party should nominate a different candidate for president in 2024?
Nominate Joe Biden as 2024 presidential candidate: 45%
Nominate a different person as 2024 presidential candidate: 50%
Or this "kind of shit":
Thinking about the investigations into Donald Trump, do you think that Donald Trump has or has not committed any serious federal crimes?
Trump has committed serious federal crimes: 51%
Trump has not committed serious federal crimes: 35%
Don't know/Refused: 14%
I find it fascinating that even a NY Times poll doesn't find a plurality of folks who are convinced that the DOJ is making its case (when the "Not committed a serious crime" responses are paired with the "Don't know" responses), particularly the way this process has played out in the national press.
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08-01-2023, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
What about this "kind of shit" from the NY Times:
(Asked of Democratic primary voters) Regardless of who you prefer in the Democratic primary, do you think the Democratic Party should renominate Joe Biden as the party's candidate for president in 2024, or do you think the party should nominate a different candidate for president in 2024?
Nominate Joe Biden as 2024 presidential candidate: 45%
Nominate a different person as 2024 presidential candidate: 50%
Or this "kind of shit":
Thinking about the investigations into Donald Trump, do you think that Donald Trump has or has not committed any serious federal crimes?
Trump has committed serious federal crimes: 51%
Trump has not committed serious federal crimes: 35%
Don't know/Refused: 14%
I find it fascinating that even a NY Times poll doesn't find a plurality of folks who are convinced that the DOJ is making its case (when the "Not committed a serious crime" responses are paired with the "Don't know" responses), particularly the way this process has played out in the national press.
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What is wrong with the first question? Its Dem voters who are going to vote in the primary and asking them a pointed question is quite legitimate.
As to the second question/poll, that's opinion of the people, not based on evidence gathered by the investigating agencies. Now you want to conflate the two together, take a legal question and make this into a popular one. Only a court of law, not a court of public opinion can determine if he is guilty.
Your arguments are as dishonest as they can be.
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08-01-2023, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Rajoo
What is wrong with the first question? Its Dem voters who are going to vote in the primary and asking them a pointed question is quite legitimate.
As to the second question/poll, that's opinion of the people, not based on evidence gathered by the investigating agencies. Now you want to conflate the two together, take a legal question and make this into a popular one. Only a court of law, not a court of public opinion can determine if he is guilty.
Your arguments are as dishonest as they can be.
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That's our Whell. He's never found a bad faith argument that he didn't love.
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08-01-2023, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bobabode
That's our Whell. He's never found a bad faith argument that he didn't love.
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Polls are opinions and guess what they say about opinions?
Here is an example from Scientific American.
Do People Really Think Earth Might Be Flat?
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A poll says lots of Millennials evidently do—and it’s not entirely clear why
“Just 66 percent of millennials firmly believe that the Earth is round,” read the summary from the pollster YouGov. Kids today, right? But it’s not only curmudgeons eager to complain about the younger generation who ought to find the survey of interest. For despite the recent prominence of flat-earthery among musicians and athletes, YouGov’s survey seems to have been the first systematic attempt to assess the American population’s views on the shape of the Earth.
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Now there is irrefutable scientific proof from NASA that the earth is round, yet 34% of the millennials believe otherwise. So much for polls and people's opinions on science or the law. Best is, leave this to the experts and judiciary.
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...might-be-flat/
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