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[RedTide]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

I agree, we're not going to get through to them on message boards and social media. I have a family member that's gone down the rabbit hole. The recently made a comment about offshore windmills causing whale beachings. A couple of winters ago when Texas's power grid went tits-up she repeated the nonsense about windmill failures being the problem. I informed them that those sources gave a max of 10% of Texas's energy they seemed surprised. All this nuttery they heard on Reich-wing angertainment radio of course.
A question I have yet to get a straight answer for (ever since 2016) is if tRump is so great why does he lie so much? Not one straight answer.

I wasn't sure how much I should push back on MuseChaser's BS. Call them out and they get further isolated, don't call them out and other like minded people take it as validation of the BS MuseChaser was saying. It's too easy for me to get too prickly in online discussion. There's a LateBoomer guy I've been pushing back on lately but I assume it is pointless.

I kind of had a fantasy that a Trump supporter and me being a lifelong Green Party supporter could find some common ground in a meaningless Barbie movie thread, but its never going to happen.

I usually don't participate in online discussions because they are too slow and easy to misinterpret. I got involved in that AI thread because loopstick was getting attacked, and it had gone on for 120 pages of blabbering nonsense. I couldn't believe that the OP then posted a video with a goldfish wearing a tinfoil hat as some kind of proof of the coming AI apocalypse. There was also some story about a "drone kills operator" story that was shown in the thread to be false, and the moderator and others kept talking about it as if the story were true. It was kind of eye opening how f*cked we are that there is no way these people are listening to any Faux news recants (like with this story: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-veterans-fake)

[finnbow]

Half the GOP doesn’t think Trump had sensitive documents at Mar-a-Lago.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ment-partisan/

Bizarro World

[RickeyM]

Not surprising, after all they still consider him a good president.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

Not surprising, after all they still consider him a good president.

Sometimes it takes time to get the pluses and minuses together.

Check what Obama's university has concluded about him.

[init4fun]

Originally Posted by RedTide

There was also some story about a "drone kills operator" story that was shown in the thread to be false, and the moderator and others kept talking about it as if the story were true. )

Yeah, but then the moderator, when he realized the story was fiction, made a "oops, my bad" post" about mistakenly believing the story to be real. Do you remember any of this?


Your post;
"I don't think you are trolling me, but what are you talking about in post https://www.audiokarma.org/forums/i....post-16448694? The article states that the "drone kills operator" story was made up. And for a drone to turn against its operator means that the drone can reason through a problem independent of its programming. So the drone is able to reason and problem solve and a bunch of stuff that I've been trying to show AI is nowhere close to currently."


My reply;
"Yep, at first I thought it was an actual simulation of how the AI drone would act (or react), but then I saw what you pointed out back when that was posted, that it was actually a "mental exercise" and not an actual simulation. I must have forgotten to clarify my post back then :thumbsup:"

[RedTide]

Originally Posted by init4fun

Yeah, but then the moderator, when he realized the story was fiction, made a "oops, my bad" post" about mistakenly believing the story to be real. Do you remember any of this?


Your post;
"I don't think you are trolling me, but what are you talking about in post https://www.audiokarma.org/forums/i....post-16448694? The article states that the "drone kills operator" story was made up. And for a drone to turn against its operator means that the drone can reason through a problem independent of its programming. So the drone is able to reason and problem solve and a bunch of stuff that I've been trying to show AI is nowhere close to currently."


My reply;
"Yep, at first I thought it was an actual simulation of how the AI drone would act (or react), but then I saw what you pointed out back when that was posted, that it was actually a "mental exercise" and not an actual simulation. I must have forgotten to clarify my post back then :thumbsup:"

Poi's post literally in bold letters says: " Air Force Colonel Now Says Drone That Turned On Its Operator Was A “Thought Experiment”". Then the article in in huge letters says exactly the same thing. And you ignored both.

https://www.audiokarma.org/forums/in...#post-16448694

It's good that you eventually acknowledge that it never happened.

I think the future is going to be full of examples of Fox News spreading untruths for days, and then issuing quick recants (that nobody sees) so that they don't get sued.

The AI thread is proof to me that the future is going to be a shitshow of misinformation.

I don't know if we are allowed to talk about gun laws on this site. In that AI thread, I can't tell if Brandon Mull is trolling everyone with a "why aren't you guys scared about real things like out of control guns" troll, or if he really thinks cell phones cause mass shootings.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by RedTide

I don't know if we are allowed to talk about gun laws on this site..

Please do. I'm probably the only gun grabbing liberal hereabouts. Barge them out to the 500 fathom line and push them overboard. (grin)

[RedTide]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Please do. I'm probably the only gun grabbing liberal hereabouts. Barge them out to the 500 fathom line and push them overboard. (grin)

Lol - I searched for "gun" in this site and got zero search results. Mass shootings are probably the number one American issue in my estimation.

It sounds like you are pro guns. I'm 100% anti guns. America has 18 times more mass shootings than Canada. The only difference between Canada and the USA is gun control laws.

This Brandon Mull guy was worried that cell phone sensors were causing people to become mass shooters (or he is a great toller). Then Poi (who I think is on this site) posted something about maybe that is because of online radicalization, then a guy named spicer claimed it was because of prescription medication. By doing a comparison with Canada it is easy to disprove both ideas. It blows my mind how Americans don't see the obvious.

I was once on an American golf site, where guys were saying that they needed to carry guns while golfing in case of coyote attacks. I've run across 4 black bears camping and they have always run away. A 7 iron is a perfect weapon to a caveman for a coyote. It's such freaking BS.

The whole freaking "Gun Porn" thread on AK is an abomination. Good work normalizing something that is super f*cked up to the rest of the world.

Good work Americans in not accepting "gun control laws" as answer to anything. You are freaking exhausting.

[RedTide]

Originally Posted by init4fun

Yeah, but then the moderator, when he realized the story was fiction, made a "oops, my bad" post" about mistakenly believing the story to be real. Do you remember any of this?

It also seems to me from that thread that you and the OP spent zero effort in trying to disprove any "AI Apocalypse" ideas. Youtube is a huge echo chamber, so I get that maybe that's all you were fed. But holy smokes 120 pages later and you guys were pointing to a video with a goldfish with a tin foil hat, that had stories that you admit now were untrue, freaking science fiction poorly written by an AI that the OP accepted as truth, and you guys were and saying "what about this?" That video should have been embarrassing to anyone who actually looked into AI for 6 months. I was embarrassed for the OP.

120 pages and a goldfish with a tinfoil hat screams to me that we are f*cked.

[RedTide]

From page 1 of this thread: Now, in case there are some poor folks out there who believe this is true, as a service to our readers let me state that this is story is categorically false. The Trump folks have already stated that they will look to aggressively cut government spending. Since Mr. Christie insisted as a condition of acceptance for the ambassador role that the purchase of two adjacent seats for any government air travel to accommodate his girth was a requirement, Trump retracted the job offer.

I'm proud to support this effort to inform, and help counteract the corrosive impact of "fake news".

Keep blabbering USA.