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Old 07-23-2023, 04:20 PM
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Someone just as able would have to replace him.
The Dems need a plan B ready and set to go. Hit the ground running, unified and a successor to Biden. Afraid the VP is not the one IMHO. She is very capable and so on. The Dems need someone who can win I don't think she can.

This next election is to important we win.
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Old 07-24-2023, 07:24 AM
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What is Michigan's GDP again? (rolls eyes)
What exactly does Michigan's GDP have to do with California's underperforming schools? Oh, I get it. You're changing the subject in defense of the dark horse for the Dems in the 2024 election.
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Old 07-24-2023, 07:26 AM
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What is inferior curricula?
That which supports California student's poor academic performance. Did that really need explaining?
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Old 07-24-2023, 07:34 AM
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Yes it does. For MAGAt's like you those are often code words for things like CRT. That "poor academic performance". Is that the fault of the curriculum or the teaching of it? Maybe they could institute the curriculum used in those underperforming red southern states?
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Old 07-24-2023, 07:57 AM
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Poor California. Turning into a Third World country before our eyes. Patriots living there should get out now.
Another Zero/whell clone. Cool...any chance of a topical post? Not from what we have seen so far.
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Old 07-24-2023, 08:15 AM
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Poor California. Turning into a Third World country before our eyes. Patriots living there should get out now.
The 10 worst states to live and work:

Rated by financial website CNBC with no political agenda, and once headed up by Trump economic advisor, Larry Kudlow.

Criteria:

Crime rates
Environmental quality
Health care
Quality and availability of childcare
Inclusiveness in state laws such as reproductive rights, protections against discrimination and voting rights.

Texas received 53 out of 350 points for its 2023 Life, Health & Inclusion score, giving it an F in its Top States grade and the lowest nationwide, securing its number one spot on the list.


1. Texas
2. Oklahoma
3. Louisiana
4. South Carolina and Alabama (tie)
6. Missouri
7. Indiana
8. Tennessee
9. Arkansas
10.Florida

Note...all red. The higher on the list, the darker the red.


California is the fucking garden of eden compared with Texas.

For the expanded report on each fucked up winning red state...

These are America’s 10 worst states to live and work in for 2023

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How could 200,000 college educated workers moving to Texas each year possibly be wrong? It depends on how you look at it. With the nation’s highest percentage of people without health insurance and the second lowest number of primary care physicians per capita, all those new Texans are arriving to find a dismal health care system. Texas has the nation’s thirteenth-highest violent crime rate, and it ranks thirty seventh for licensed childcare facilities per capita.
Yep...a lot of jobs in Texas. Good luck with the rest of your fucking life.

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Old 07-24-2023, 08:52 AM
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Yes it does. For MAGAt's like you those are often code words for things like CRT. That "poor academic performance". Is that the fault of the curriculum or the teaching of it? Maybe they could institute the curriculum used in those underperforming red southern states?
Strawman argument 1: "For MAGAt's like you"
Strawman argument 2: "often code words for things like CRT". Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar,” Sigmund Freud once said. Sometimes poor scores are really just poor scores, and the only thing that they indicate is underperformance.
Strawman argument 3: "Maybe they could institute the curriculum used in those underperforming red southern states?" If you actually bothered to look at the info in the link provided, you might have noticed that "red southern states" like Florida, Arkansas, Georgia, Tennessee, and Texas all are outperforming California.
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Old 07-24-2023, 09:30 AM
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The 10 worst states to live and work:

Rated by financial website CNBC with no political agenda, and once headed up by Trump economic advisor, Larry Kudlow.

Criteria:

Crime rates
Environmental quality
Health care
Quality and availability of childcare
Inclusiveness in state laws such as reproductive rights, protections against discrimination and voting rights.

Texas received 53 out of 350 points for its 2023 Life, Health & Inclusion score, giving it an F in its Top States grade and the lowest nationwide, securing its number one spot on the list.


1. Texas
2. Oklahoma
3. Louisiana
4. South Carolina and Alabama (tie)
6. Missouri
7. Indiana
8. Tennessee
9. Arkansas
10.Florida

Note...all red. The higher on the list, the darker the red.


California is the fucking garden of eden compared with Texas.

For the expanded report on each fucked up winning red state...

These are America’s 10 worst states to live and work in for 2023

Yep...a lot of jobs in Texas. Good luck with the rest of your fucking life.
One survey doesn't mean much. It's a snapshot in time, and is often more meaning full when compared to other data.

The results you get are obviously dependent on the questions that are asked. For example, for the 5 items surveyed, I'd wager that most folks don't spend most of their time thinking about the "quality and availability of childcare" or "inclusiveness in state laws such as reproductive rights, protections against discrimination, and voting rights". Not that any of these things are unimportant, but most folks' thinking starts a lot closer to their wallet and their immediate family needs.

For example, states that have the greatest number of folks leaving happen to be:

1. Illinois
2. New Jersey
3. New York

Note, all blue.

The states folks are moving to?

1) Vermont
2) Oregon
3) Idaho

Not all red.

Must this difference be driven by each state's legislative inclusiveness or availability of childcare? Seems pretty unlikely to me. Personally, I think the population migrations were driven by folks fleeing the authoritarian and boneheaded regimes of those states, particularly the larger cities in those states, and COVID may have been a factor as well.

Finally, in terms of what really matters to people, as the US population gets demographically older over time, people will continue to vote with their wallets and support policies and move to states that treat retirement income in a friendlier manner. Most of those states that you list are not only higher growth (increasing population due to migration) states, but also retirement tax-friendly states. Again, not many of these folks are worried about childcare or "inclusive" legislation.

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Old 07-24-2023, 09:34 AM
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Poor California. Turning into a Third World country before our eyes. Patriots living there should get out now.
You have no idea what a Third World country is.
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Old 07-24-2023, 10:51 AM
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One survey doesn't mean much. It's a snapshot in time, and is often more meaning full when compared to other data.

The results you get are obviously dependent on the questions that are asked. For example, for the 5 items surveyed, I'd wager that most folks don't spend most of their time thinking about the "quality and availability of childcare" or "inclusiveness in state laws such as reproductive rights, protections against discrimination, and voting rights". Not that any of these things are unimportant, but most folks' thinking starts a lot closer to their wallet and their immediate family needs.

For example, states that have the greatest number of folks leaving happen to be:

1. Illinois
2. New Jersey
3. New York

Note, all blue.

The states folks are moving to?

1) Vermont
2) Oregon
3) Idaho

Not all red.

Must this difference be driven by each state's legislative inclusiveness or availability of childcare? Seems pretty unlikely to me. Personally, I think the population migrations were driven by folks fleeing the authoritarian and boneheaded regimes of those states, particularly the larger cities in those states, and COVID may have been a factor as well.

Finally, in terms of what really matters to people, as the US population gets demographically older over time, people will continue to vote with their wallets and support policies and move to states that treat retirement income in a friendlier manner. Most of those states that you list are not only higher growth (increasing population due to migration) states, but also retirement tax-friendly states. Again, not many of these folks are worried about childcare or "inclusive" legislation.
Are all California schools at the 35th ranking?
We used to live in an East Bay suburb of about 58K population considered one of the best towns to live in the US. 90%+ of graduating seniors went to four year colleges.

Or how do you explain some of the world class universities, just about every UC is in the top 50 or better with Berkley and UCLA leading the way, closely followed by UCSD, UC Davis with UC SF, Santa Cruz not much of a downgrade from the top four.

Then we have Stanford, Cal Poly, USC, Cal Tech.
There are other private schools that most people do not even exist but are highly sought after. Granted these schools attract world class students but also attracts top students from California.
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