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[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Schadenfreude is a powerful force and I revel in watching your Dear Leader finally getting his comeuppance for a life of crime and for the damage he did to our country. Besides, he is the leading GOP candidate for the presidency and he happens to be under indictment for 71 felonies (with almost certainly many more to come). This is a political forum and I'd say that this is one of the most newsworthy stories in the history of the republic. Don't like it? Tell Trump to cop a plea and fade away.

According Jennifer Rubin's column today, it certainly seems so. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy if you ask me.

Buckle up: The federal Jan. 6 indictment might be around the corner

Special counsel Jack Smith has been toiling away for months, calling witnesses before grand juries and litigating against claims of privilege in his investigation of twice-indicted former president Donald Trump. Given the accelerated pace of his investigation, the inner-circle witnesses from whom Smith has obtained testimony and the expected state indictment in Georgia on a portion of the plot to overthrow the 2020 election, some experienced prosecutors — including former Justice Department lawyers — think Smith is likely to bring an indictment before Fulton County, Ga., District Attorney Fani T. Willis pulls the trigger.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...secution-memo/

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

According Jennifer Rubin's column today, it certainly seems so. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy if you ask me.

Buckle up: The federal Jan. 6 indictment might be around the corner

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...secution-memo/

Yeh, but Hunter Biden's laptop!!!

[whell]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

Dana Milbank: “To call a person who endorses violence against the duly elected government a ‘Republican’ is itself Orwellian. More accurate words exist for such a person. One of them is ‘fascist.’”

Fascists/Semi-Fascists:

First and foremost Trump.
Ron DeSantis
Gregg Abbot


Gym Jordan
Matt Goest wants Russia to be invited to join NATO
MTG
Louis Gohmert
Paul Gosar
Tommy Tubes
Trump Junior

Let's just take a couple: Please describe the specific, documented actions that DeSantis and Abbot have taken that prompt you to place them on your list.

[Chicks]

An excellent piece on DeSatan's slide into Orban-style fascism here, but it's well above your comprehension level, sorry.

https://truthout.org/articles/florid...-viktor-orban/

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

It wasn't my definition. It was the definition provided by the Oxford English Language Dictionary. Don't like it? Take it up with them. While you're at it, you may wish to check out their definition for euphemism as you don't seem to know what it means either.

Keep it up and you'll reach "king butthole" status in no time.

Euphemism is used perfectly in this context: a mild or indirect word or expression substituted for one considered to be too harsh or blunt when referring to something unpleasant or embarrassing.

Socializm is unpleasant in any form. The myriad terms that are substituted for it, such as "Social Democrat" are used in an effort to make socializm sound more palatable. Hell, the word "socializm" itself is a euphemism for the less pleasant aspects and outcomes associated with its application.

Congratulations on finding a source that attempts to convince folks that there are degrees of "socializm", where one is "bad" - do you call it "pure socializm" - because an autocrat is in charge. This is contrasted with "less bad socializm" - you know, the type where folks are supposedly happy - like Social Democracy. I guess that's because - as you like to point out - the word "democracy" is part of the title. However, as you also like to point out, it doesn't mean that your source is right.

By the way, if socializm is so great, why did the intrepid admins set up the forum to do this when someone types the word: so************************m?

To test your definition of socializm, let me ask you very simple questions:

- Can socializm exist within a society absent an "authoritarian leader".
- Can democrat forms of citizen participation - such as voting or running for elections - exist under where a leader of a society is an "authoritarian"?

If you answered yes to both, then you understand why your simplistic definition is intellectually dishonest.

Originally Posted by finnbow

WTF? I provided you an informative article from Encyclopedia Britannica that defined and explained protofascism (which they said was also known by the term semi-fascism). Don't like it? Take it up with them. If you don't like their definition pull up the Google search results and dive in. In addition to Britannica, Merriam-Webster and Wikipedia also provide definitions- take your pick. For that matter, there are entire books on the subject. Here's one and here's another.

Once again, just because you don't know about something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

It has an objective meaning (see above) and I used the word protofascist long before Biden correctly used the term to describe "extreme MAGA" folks.

Good for you, you found a word you're happy with. A claim that it is "sometimes used interchangeably" with another word doesn't mean that the two words share the same definition. It simply means that the person using the term - in this case "semi-fascist" - is imputing or suggesting a possible meaning. The fact remains that there are a lot of opinions about what the term semi-fascist might mean, but no objective definition. And, to that end, you still have not provided specific examples of actual behavior.
Similarly, I can go to a thesaurus and look up "socializm". Here's what I get:

1. Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.
2. The stage in Marxist-Leninist theory intermediate between capitalism and communism, in which the means of production are collectively owned but a completely classless society has not yet been achieved.

So "socializm" is an inclusive word that includes all the little euphemistic feel-good terms like "social democracy". Funny, I don't see a damn thing in that description about authoritarian leaders. But, I will allow that autocracy is one possible type of leadership in a socializtic society.

Originally Posted by finnbow

Schadenfreude is a powerful force...

Yep, it is. Its also usually exhibited or felt by small people who get their jollies by tearing other folks down.

[Chicks]

Originally Posted by whell

Keep it up and you'll reach "king butthole" status in no time.

Nope, your hold on that position has been clenched for a long, long time.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by whell

Let's just take a couple: Please describe the specific, documented actions that DeSantis and Abbot have taken that prompt you to place them on your list.

Yawn. I believe most of us except the MAGAt believe this to be true about DeSantis and Abbot. I will leave it at that since Meatball is pretty much out of the running for potus now.

[bobabode]

Whell asks, "By the way, if socializm is so great, why did the intrepid admins set up the forum to do this when someone types the word: so************************m?"

It's because the word c i a l i s is contained within the word, ya nitwit. (rolls eyes)
If you have cramps in your noggin for more than four hours? Delete your account.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Let's just take a couple: Please describe the specific, documented actions that DeSantis and Abbot have taken that prompt you to place them on your list.

You don't get to make homework assignments. Figure it out for yourself.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by finnbow

You don't get to make homework assignments. Figure it out for yourself.

He will take every word and nitpick it and cloud the basic tenet which is MAGA is Fascism and MAGAts are Fascists. I don't feel compelled to prove anything, the internet is full of articles covering this topic from people who know a lot more and write for a living and can do it far far better than me. (or is it I?)

After all, DeSantis has earned the nickname DeFascist.