Hunter Biden Lock Him Up!!!!!

[Ike Bana]

OK...I'll tell you what I really think of this gun charge. The most dangerous drug in this country is alcohol. It ruins more lives and kills more people than all the other drugs, legal or not, combined. So when we start convicting drunks of feloney firearms possession, I will acknowledge that it's a law that is being equitably enforced. Because right now, its remarkable bullshit.

[Chicks]

House Republicans 'losing patience' with 'politically dumb' right-wingers' investigations
https://www.rawstory.com/amp/jim-jor...mer-2661700397

These wingnuts are doing these witchhunts in collusion with Faux “News” to keep the fake outrage going strong in Whell’s World.

[Oerets]

We are witnessing reality and facts confronting the minds of the willingly ill informed cult implode.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

The innuendo is strong in those asshole alt-right fellow citizen seditionist insurrectionista's.

As if right on cue...

Originally Posted by whell

The allegation on the bribes goes...

Originally Posted by Rajoo

Allegations do not count, indictments do.

Well, when allegations' all you've got. It's as if whell thinks he's posting on a pro-MAGA site, SMH. Then he gets mad when we don't engage in his bad faith BS.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

Allegations do not count, indictments do.
So why are you posting about allegations instead of about actual indictments, 37 new ones IIRC.

After all in a six year investigation by David Weiss if there were legitimate allegations, wouldn't the independent US attorney have charged Hunter Biden?

See, the way it works is, the allegation comes first, then the investigation happens where facts are uncovered that support or undercut the allegation, and then maybe comes the indictment if that facts support it....

...or unless the IRS and the DOJ are blocking your attempt to prosecute the case:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe...case-rcna90689

[whell]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

OK...I'll tell you what I really think of this gun charge. The most dangerous drug in this country is alcohol. It ruins more lives and kills more people than all the other drugs, legal or not, combined. So when we start convicting drunks of felony firearms possession, I will acknowledge that it's a law that is being equitably enforced. Because right now, it's remarkable bullshit.

Sort of. Nicotine is almost as addictive as alcohol, causes far more deaths than alcohol, and will never be put entirely out of business because, like alcohol sales, its sales are a source of government revenue that would have to be replaced if it was outlawed.

As for the gun charge, a perp under the influence is more likely to be involved in the illegal use of a firearm, which is why that law exists.

Besides, I thought the left wanted more gun laws, not less.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by whell

Sort of. Nicotine is almost as addictive as alcohol, causes far more deaths than alcohol, and will never be put entirely out of business because, like alcohol sales, its sales are a source of government revenue that would have to be replaced if it was outlawed.

As for the gun charge, a perp under the influence is more likely to be involved in the illegal use of a firearm, which is why that law exists.

Besides, I thought the left wanted more gun laws, not less.

You're wrong about everything, as usual. Nicotine and alcohol are the most addictive of all drugs, legal or otherwise. But if you examine the literature...Alcohol is responsible for more crime and deaths than all other drugs, street drugs or prescription drugs COMBINED. It is more responsible for human misery, interpersonal misery, employment misery, financial misery, and financial failure, and medically related deaths than all other drugs combined, including nicotine.

Am I saying that alcohol should be outlawed, or that anything else that stupid humans decide to put into their bodies should be outlawed? Go find a post of mine where I have suggested such a thing. So why the fuck would you suggest that I have? Because you're a MAGA asshole that that's what you shitsacks do.

As far as your stupid "a perp under the influence" comment is concerned...

Bureau of Justice Statistics - Alcohol and CrimeOffice of Justice Programs:
Based on compilations and new analysis of data on alcohol and crime, we know that nearly 4 in 10 violent victimizations involve use of alcohol.

So you're as ill-informed about this as you are about everything else.

I don't want more gun laws. I want one gun law. Handguns and assault rifles (call them "war weapons" if you like), should be outlawed, with current possession not grandfathered in. American citizens would have 90 days to surrender any such firearms to local athorities. After that, violation of the law would generate...
First offense, 5 years.
Second offense, 20 years.
Third offense...buh bye for good.

It's the only law I want. It's the only law that would give us similar firearms homicide rates as we see in the rest of first world nations. Because that's what they have done...while we celebrate our democratized gun homicide carnage.

Ya go that now, Mikey?

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

See, the way it works is, the allegation comes first, then the investigation happens where facts are uncovered that support or undercut the allegation, and then maybe comes the indictment if that facts support it....

...or unless the IRS and the DOJ are blocking your attempt to prosecute the case:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe...case-rcna90689

I couldn't care less what legitimately happens to Hunter Biden (as opposed to the bloodthirsty, breathless accusations/innuendo from the House GOP), but there is less to the linked story than meets the eye. First, the GOP's whistleblowers thus far have been far less than credible MAGA suck-ups with axes to grind.

Secondly, as someone who worked at high levels of 3 federal agencies that sometimes referred cases to DOJ for possible prosecution, there are several steps that are taken before any case is even considered for referral. First, cognizant staff at the originating agency need to develop all the known facts in the case and then elevate it to the agency's Solicitor (or General Counsel) office for a thorough review. At that point, the Solicitor decides whether it constitutes a slam-dunk case for referral to DOJ. Otherwise, it goes nowhere as DOJ has a full enough plate that it won't even consider weak/hearsay cases (their pickiness results in their 99.6% conviction rate).

Agencies don't want to be perceived as Chicken Littles who forward weak cases because agency Solicitors fear it would negatively impact important future referrals from the agency in the eyes of DOJ. Once a case gets referred to DOJ, there is a reasonable likelihood that it won't be prosecuted for a number of reasons (e.g., still perceived as a weak case, no compelling public interest is served by the case, prosecution is already being pursued by state or local prosecutors). At that point, cases that are accepted for prosecution result in 95% being settled out of court anyway.

If Hunter's case was already close to settlement via a plea, DOJ wouldn't be particularly interested in further mucking up the works with further counts that wouldn't materially impact the settlement and its prescribed penalty.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by whell

See, the way it works is, the allegation comes first, then the investigation happens where facts are uncovered that support or undercut the allegation, and then maybe comes the indictment if that facts support it....

...or unless the IRS and the DOJ are blocking your attempt to prosecute the case:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe...case-rcna90689

More bullshit, but I will play.

Isn't the Freedumb caucus investigating the DOJ for .......................(fill in the blanks). Have they found anything yet? When you have the authority to investigate and cannot find anything, you failed to find anything. That's how it goes, cannot keep repeating "you lie" unless you can prove it.

And why are they busy with:

1. Censuring Adam Schiff (an easy target and a cheap shot)

2. Impeaching Biden? Here is an excerpt from Dana Milbank's column today.

And now Republicans are starting their impeachment binge.

Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.) rose in the House Tuesday evening after the last vote. “For what purpose does the gentlewoman from Colorado seek recognition?” asked the presiding officer, Rep. Russell Fry (R-S.C.).

The gentlewoman sought recognition to unveil a parliamentary maneuver that would force a vote within 48 hours on H. Res. 503, “Impeaching Joseph R. Biden Jr., president of the United States, for high crimes and misdemeanors.”

No impeachment proceedings. No investigation. No evidence. No crimes. Not so much as parking ticket. Just a willy-nilly, snap vote to impeach the president, because Boebert dislikes Biden’s immigration policies. In her mind, “President Biden has intentionally facilitated a complete and total invasion at the southern border,” she charged on the House floor.

Unfortunately this does not work in a court of law, one cannot bring a lawsuit based on allegations as BoBo (The Palins, Act. II, grand mother at 36) seems to be up to. So take your allegations and turn them into indictments.

And guess what happened to grandma BoBo's impeachment resolution? Got kicked to a committee (curb) where it will die a slow ungraceful death and you know why? No 'fucking' evidence.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...arthy-boebert/

[whell]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

You're wrong about everything, as usual. Nicotine and alcohol are the most addictive of all drugs, legal or otherwise. But if you examine the literature...Alcohol is responsible for more crime and deaths than all other drugs, street drugs or prescription drugs COMBINED. It is more responsible for human misery, interpersonal misery, employment misery, financial misery, and financial failure, and medically related deaths than all other drugs combined, including nicotine.

OK, fine and dandy. But you didn't specify that you were including "collateral damage" caused by narcotics use in your definition.

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Am I saying that alcohol should be outlawed, or that anything else that stupid humans decide to put into their bodies should be outlawed? Go find a post of mine where I have suggested such a thing. So why the fuck would you suggest that I have? Because you're a MAGA asshole that that's what you shitsacks do.

Where the f**k did I suggest it? I didn't even mention you in the response to your post. Misread or misconstrue post is what lefty shitstacks do, I guess.

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

As far as your stupid "a perp under the influence" comment is concerned...

So you're as ill-informed about this as you are about everything else.

I don't want more gun laws. I want one gun law. Handguns and assault rifles (call them "war weapons" if you like), should be outlawed, with current possession not grandfathered in. American citizens would have 90 days to surrender any such firearms to local athorities. After that, violation of the law would generate...
First offense, 5 years.
Second offense, 20 years.
Third offense...buh bye for good.

It's the only law I want. It's the only law that would give us similar firearms homicide rates as we see in the rest of first world nations. Because that's what they have done...while we celebrate our democratized gun homicide carnage.

Not likely. We tried that already, less the mandatory surrender of property that you advocate above. And the research on the impact of the law indicated nothing even close to the reduction in homicide rates that you envision above.

The mandatory surrender of property would require an amendment to that document your claim to despise, the US Constitution. Currently, that horrid document prevents the government from confiscating or compelling the surrender of personal property without due process. Some of the other "first world nations" don't always have the same protections for personal property as this country does, as distressing as that may be to you.

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Ya go that now, Mikey?

All I have now is a headache after reading your rant.