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06-08-2023, 08:22 AM
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Trump's attorneys are telling him to prepare for indictment
That's nice. Meantime we're stuck with our piece of shit Constitution and the law, good or bad law, that is generated from it that says, a felon, sometimes depending on the nature of the crime, but also generally, cannot be employed in the following...
Working with children
Most medical professions
Commercial piloting
Law enforcement or security positions
Practicing attorney
Contact with classified information
In most states, jobs that require a firearm and...
Most government work except...President of the United States...There are no legal obstacles to running for president as a convicted felon or even from behind bars...and even serve as President from prison.
Most interesting is that conviction of acts of terrorism or anti-government action will instantly exclude such felons from government jobs. Trump has obviously done this, but can he be convicted of it? Remarkably, perhaps not.
But basically, in this country, with our worn out Constitution which is unrelated to modern day life in any meaningful way, there's a whole lot of jobs that felons can't have, but one of them is not the Commander In Chief.
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06-08-2023, 10:04 AM
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Frankly, I think the sole remedy of impeachment to remove a President is brilliant. It would keep folks from filing criminal complaints - frivolous or otherwise - for the sole purpose of getting an elected official out of office.
In the unlikely event that Trump were elected for a 2nd term after being convicted for, for instance, trafficking in top secret documents, there's no doubt that both parties would agree to impeach him and vote to remove him.
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06-08-2023, 10:44 AM
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In the unlikely event that Trump were elected for a 2nd term after being convicted for, for instance, trafficking in top secret documents, there's no doubt that both parties would agree to impeach him and vote to remove him.
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No doubt? LOL. They gave him a pass for extorting Zelensky over military aid and staging a coup and even Pence, the guy that MAGAts wanted to hang and current GOP presidential candidate, doesn't want Trump prosecuted for the documents case or Jan. 6. If the GOP were serious, the RNC would pass a rule prohibiting someone under multiple felony indictments to getting the Republican nomination. Unfortunately, a majority of Republicans would like to see him reelected (even if under indictment or convicted) and would support him pardoning himself while in office.
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06-08-2023, 10:47 AM
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Frankly, I think the sole remedy of impeachment to remove a President is brilliant. It would keep folks from filing criminal complaints - frivolous or otherwise - for the sole purpose of getting an elected official out of office.
In the unlikely event that Trump were elected for a 2nd term after being convicted for, for instance, trafficking in top secret documents, there's no doubt that both parties would agree to impeach him and vote to remove him.
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Why? Its a political solution where the underlying lying laws and prosecutorial norms do not apply.
Trump blackmailed Ukraine into getting them to tarnish Biden and his candidacy to help him win an election and there was a mountain of evidence. The Senate refused to convict Trump.
Trump mounted an insurrection against the government of USA, again there was ample evidence to convict him and once again the Repugnant Senate refused to convict him.
In either instance there is no further recourse such as appeals or mistrial.
You call this brilliant?
Yes, he can shoot someone in the head in Times Square in broad daylight and he will be acquitted by a Repugnant Senate.
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06-08-2023, 10:49 AM
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In the unlikely event that Trump were elected for a 2nd term after being convicted for, for instance, trafficking in top secret documents, there's no doubt that both parties would agree to impeach him and vote to remove him.
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You really are this big a fool, aren't you? Unbelievable.
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06-08-2023, 11:16 AM
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That's nice.
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Quoting your thread title, "Trump's attorneys are telling him to prepare for indictment", the cynic in me tells me that his attorneys are lining to collect their fees up front. Expect a MAGA fundraising call to the deplorables.
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06-08-2023, 11:44 AM
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You really are this big a fool, aren't you? Unbelievable.
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He isn't that big a fool. He's a troll who will say anything to get people to disagree. If he makes people disagree strenuously, he feels he has exercised power. That's his thrill.
He may or may not totally understand what makes himself tick, but that's it. It's a weak sort of bullying, poking people to make them yell.
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06-08-2023, 01:11 PM
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Trump's attorneys are telling him to prepare for indictment
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Expect a MAGA fundraising call to the deplorables.
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The latter is how he'll prepare for the former
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06-19-2023, 11:18 AM
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In the unlikely event that Trump were elected for a 2nd term after being convicted for, for instance, trafficking in top secret documents, there's no doubt that both parties would agree to impeach him and vote to remove him.
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If Trump has shared classified information with anybody, it seels to mebit oughta be the Rosenberg sentence for him. It seems pretty likely that he has...the only reason for him absconding with all this shit was to show it off. Donald's "lool how important I am shit show."
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06-19-2023, 12:48 PM
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Just for sharing classified information, no. But if it can be shown that information he compromised was the proximate cause of the deaths of multiple agents and informants working with us, then you might have a case.
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