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06-18-2023, 09:31 AM
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We are in for some scary and uncertain times since the rule of law does not seem to apply anymore.
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"scary and uncertain times"
Especially when the law appears selective; when it seems politically opportunistic.
Note appears and seems.
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06-18-2023, 10:28 AM
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"scary and uncertain times"
Especially when the law appears selective; when it seems politically opportunistic.
Note appears and seems.
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So then lets get unselective. Indict and try Pence now, but Biden's case will have to wait since the JD does not indict 'sitting' presidents.
The difference is that most rational people in this country including Democrats are not opposed to the prosecution of Joe Biden, Hunter Biden or anyone else who breaks the law. The Republicans OTOH (irrationally) do not want to hold Trump responsible of any of his illegal actions such as blackmailing Ukraine, election tampering, insurrection and theft of classified documents.
If a person conducts a crime and another person takes pictures of the crime in action, whom do you prosecute. A Republican would prefer that only the photographer gets prosecuted if the criminal is Trump. Pointing the finger at Trump is politics.
Here is an example for you to consider. DC Mayor's chief of staff is accused of sexual harassment and promptly resigns after the woman discloses explicit messages and pictures. Upon release of Plant Hollywood tapes of Trump sexually harassing women what did the Republicans do? Voted him into the highest office in the land.
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Falcicchio resigned March 17, after the woman filed her complaint. He was one of Bowser’s top aides and a confidant since her first run for City Council, in 2006.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md...al-harassment/
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06-18-2023, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Dondilion
"scary and uncertain times"
Especially when the law appears selective; when it seems politically opportunistic.
Note appears and seems.
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The idea the Biden is directing the unfair targeting of Trump by the weaponized Justice Dept is the new big lie, Big Lie 2. The 'appears' you speak of is not an grassroots response to actual events, it is an engineered propaganda effect.
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06-18-2023, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
The idea the Biden is directing the unfair targeting of Trump by the weaponized Justice Dept is the new big lie, Big Lie 2. The 'appears' you speak of is not an grassroots response to actual events, it is an engineered propaganda effect.
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Even Bill Barr says that Trump wasn't selectively prosecuted and that Trump forced DOJ's hand. He further states:
“He will always put his own interests and gratifying his own ego ahead of everything else, including the country’s interests. There’s no question about it. This is a perfect example of that. He’s like a 9-year-old — a defiant 9-year-old kid who’s always pushing the glass toward the edge of the table, defying his parents to stop him from doing it. It’s a means of self-assertion and exerting his dominance over other people. And he’s a very petty individual who will always put his interests ahead of the country’s, his personal gratification of his ego. But our country can’t be a therapy session for a troubled man like this.”
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06-18-2023, 04:05 PM
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Big Lie #2 and my question is why.
Every attorney that Trump had until the visit from the FBI to hand over the documents must have told him to hand them over, all of them over. But he did not for various reasons despite best legal advice he could buy.
Fast forward, he has now been indicted in Miami, FL and his case will be heard by a judge he appointed by him and from her previous rulings, hero worships him. In an article today, Classified Information Procedures Act can help him stall this case since some of the evidence to be presented is classified. From a reading of this article, it can be a long drawn out process and all the attorneys will need security clearance. So what if an attorney quits? Replacement attorney needs to be engaged, security clearance need to be obtained. Heck, this case could go on and on and on at the rate attorneys quit on him.
And we have the Trumpers yet again believing in another Big Lie. Mind boggling to say the least.
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06-18-2023, 05:41 PM
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Jack Smith petitioning for a Canon recusal should be automatic at this point. An indictment for the Jan 6 insurrection or Election interference from GA would have no problem with such delays.
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06-18-2023, 08:00 PM
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Jack Smith petitioning for a Canon recusal should be automatic at this point. An indictment for the Jan 6 insurrection or Election interference from GA would have no problem with such delays.
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In due course. First get her to show her ass with a I'm-in-the-tank-forTrump ruling. THEN he can petition the appeals court for a new judge and get one.
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06-19-2023, 06:53 AM
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She could wait until the very end, after it's been drug out until after the 2024 election and he's been convicted then with some lousy excuse like "It's for the good of the nation" give the Despicable One some slap on the wrist sentence. By then it's too late.
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06-19-2023, 08:07 PM
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Washington Post: FBI slowed investigation into Trump’s role in January 6 for fear of appearing political
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/19/polit...tion-january-6
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06-19-2023, 08:27 PM
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She could wait until the very end, after it's been drug out until after the 2024 election and he's been convicted then with some lousy excuse like "It's for the good of the nation" give the Despicable One some slap on the wrist sentence. By then it's too late.
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For now the best I hope for is putting skids on Trump's reelection chances form this and the other two pending cases. Anything beyond that should be considered a bonus. And also hoping that the Republican primary goes off the rails with MTG in talks with DJT about a presidential ticket.
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