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That had absolutely nothing to do with that the suspect being a Catholic. It had to do with him being a criminal suspect. In case you forgot, Joe Biden is Catholic as are 2/3 of the SCOTUS justices.
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05-21-2023, 12:52 PM
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What you say was true before Trump came on the scene. There were legitimate reasons to support "establishment" Republicans then (mostly regulatory), notwithstanding their fraudulent economic dogma and NeoCon foreign policy.
The struggle between Democrats and Republicans has now morphed into Democracy vs Autocracy and there is simply no defense whatsoever for supporting autocracy in the USA (or among our allies). This was true before January 6 and even more true today. Voting for (or defending) Trump is voting for or supporting autocracy and is a violation of our nation's creed. So yes, you either oppose Trump or you are against us (those supporting and promoting democracy in the USA). It really is as simple as that and it's pretty clear where you ( and most Trump supporters) stand. |
Not in this country, it's not. If that's what you believe, then you've morphed into the party of autocracy that you claim to disdain. The for us or against us line has been used by the likes of Lenin and Mussolini to create polarization and persecute the opposition. If that's where you socia!st democrats are heading, then you're no better than the man you claim to despise. Whatever you claim to support, it sure as hell isn't freedom or democracy
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05-21-2023, 12:54 PM
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That had absolutely nothing to do with that the suspect being a Catholic. It had to do with him being a criminal suspect. In case you forgot, Joe Biden is Catholic as are 2/3 of the SCOTUS justices.
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it had everything to do with being pro life.
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05-21-2023, 01:04 PM
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Russia’s Latest Sanctions on U.S. Officials Turn to Trump Enemies
Among the 500 people singled out for travel and financial restrictions were Americans seen as adversaries by former President Donald J. Trump.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/21/w...ons-trump.html
...yet fools still fervently protest when their Dear Leader's extensive help by Russia in two elections is mentioned.
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05-21-2023, 01:12 PM
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it had everything to do with being pro life.
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No, it didn't. It had everything to do with him allegedly engaging in behavior proscribed by the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act. One's beliefs, however sincere, do not excuse illegal behavior. Similarly, sincerely believing that Biden "stole" the election does not excuse attacking the US Capitol and blocking Congress's certification of the election. Beliefs and behavior are two entirely different things (i.e., in this country, you are free to believe anything you want, but you can't engage in illegal activity based upon those beliefs).
If you are truly upset about religious persecution, you must have been really livid about Trump's Muslim ban. You should be similarly outraged by DeSantis' actions against Disney for simply expressing beliefs that he disagrees with. I can't seem to remember you objecting to either, however.
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05-21-2023, 01:14 PM
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Russia’s Latest Sanctions on U.S. Officials Turn to Trump Enemies
Among the 500 people singled out for travel and financial restrictions were Americans seen as adversaries by former President Donald J. Trump.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/21/w...ons-trump.html
...yet fools still fervently protest when their Dear Leader's extensive help by Russia in two elections is mentioned.
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No shit. Brad Raffensberger made Putin's shit list and his only public transgression was opposing Trump's attempt to alter election results in Georgia.
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05-21-2023, 01:57 PM
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Not in this country, it's not. If that's what you believe, then you've morphed into the party of autocracy that you claim to disdain. The for us or against us line has been used by the likes of Lenin and Mussolini to create polarization and persecute the opposition. If that's where you socia!st democrats are heading, then you're no better than the man you claim to despise. Whatever you claim to support, it sure as hell isn't freedom or democracy
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Oh dear. Just what freedom do you see as in jeapordy from liberal policies--besides the 'right to refuse service to anyone,' that is?
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05-21-2023, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
What you say was true before Trump came on the scene. There were legitimate reasons to support "establishment" Republicans then (mostly regulatory), notwithstanding their fraudulent economic dogma and NeoCon foreign policy.
The struggle between Democrats and Republicans has now morphed into Democracy vs Autocracy and there is simply no defense whatsoever for supporting autocracy in the USA (or among our allies). This was true before January 6 and even more true today. Voting for (or defending) Trump is voting for or supporting autocracy and is a violation of our nation's creed. So yes, you either oppose Trump or you are against us (those supporting and promoting democracy in the USA). It really is as simple as that and it's pretty clear where you ( and most Trump supporters) stand. |
In lieu of a like button.. 
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05-21-2023, 03:55 PM
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No, it didn't. It had everything to do with him allegedly engaging in behavior proscribed by the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act.
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Really? 20 so federal agents with automatic weapons drawn are required to arrest one guy who was just defending his kid (and was later acquitted) from an adult who was berating the kid?
In the meantime, your hero AG Garland testifies that he can't find the folks who have been vandalizing pro-life centers because they are doing their vandalizing in the dark?
Sorry, not buying it.
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05-21-2023, 03:57 PM
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it had everything to do with being pro life.
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Only in the sense that he let his pro-life zealotry push him to do something stupid.
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