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Old 05-12-2023, 08:02 AM
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Your post is a classic example of deflection. Thank you.

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Biden is a proven liar. Fact. Biden has made racist comments. Fact. A woman has alleged that Biden sexually assaulted her, and multiple women have accused him of inappropriate touching. Fact. Biden has denied the former but admitted to the latter. Fact. There is much evidence to sustain an allegation that the Bidens and their "business partners" took in millions of dollars, in exchange for what is not at all clear. Fact. This included payments from a Romanian fat cat during a time when Biden was Veep, and was also involved in Romanian foreign affairs. Fact.

So, by your standards, Biden should also "be nowhere near any levers of power and holding a position of the leader of the free world", correct?
Pot, meet kettle, ROFLMBO, Unable to debate the facts he goes straight to whatabouwhatabouwhatabout!

This guy just cracks me up. Somebody issue him his DDDL membership card. In true Reich-winger fashion allegations and assertions equal fact. From the Reich-wing overlords: "Truth/evidence/facts are forthcoming folks, trust us!".
I'm done with this guy.
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Old 05-12-2023, 08:11 AM
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And this from Anderson Cooper defending his new boss at CNN...

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“You have every right to be outraged today and angry and never watch this network again. But do you think staying in your silo and only listening to people you agree with is going to make that person go away?”
Bullshit. Anderson...we have been hearing this "stolen election" bullshit since late October 2020, when Trump's own people were telling him he was not going to win. He has nothing new to offer, its the same shit, different day, every day for the past three and a half years.

Do we really need to hear it again? No...we do not.

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Old 05-12-2023, 08:49 AM
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Oh my. It seems that Trump's recent (and future) legal problems have made you more delusional than ever. So, it's a "fact" that Biden did something that is "not at all clear." The horror.

"The worse Trump’s behavior, the more trouble he gets in, and the less he’s tethered to reason and truth, the more intense and loyal his admirers become."

https://www.thebulwark.com/e-jean-ca...ay-still-lose/
Another great example of deflection, with a bit of spin thrown in for good measure.

Of course this - it's a "fact" that Biden did something that is "not at all clear" - is not at all what I said. You post a lie about what I said, then you include a post about Trump being "less tethered" to the truth. Hillarious!

Here's exactly what I said: There is evidence the Bidens took in millions from foreign interests via a number of LLC's that were controlled by Biden family members and associates. It is unclear what, if anything, was received in exchange for those services at the time payment was received.

For example:

As part of its investigation, the Committee is focusing on several entities that received funds from foreign companies. These include Owasco P.C.; Hudson West III, LLC; Robinson Walker, LLC; and Rosemont Seneca Bohai, LLC.  The amount of money involved in these financial transactions is significant. The wires and money transfers range from approximately $5,000 to at least $3 million.

Any services provided for these fees would likely have corresponding invoices, and the companies may also maintain books and records detailing the use of such funds. The parties should have contracts, agreements, or other communications setting forth the terms of the engagement and expectations of the parties. The Committee intends to obtain those materials—to the extent they exist—as part of its investigation.


These are facts. These facts are not in dispute.

Biden states that this evidence is not indicative of any wrongdoing. OK. But Biden has lied about this before. During one of the 2020 debates, Biden told us that 50 some national security folks said all of this was "Russian disinformation". We later find out that acting CIA director Mike Morrell put the whole thing together to assist the Bidens. It's a fact that Morrell provided this testimony under oath. It's also a fact no one is denying that this letter was a political prop. So, you'll pardon me if I don't take Biden at his word.

What is a fact is that the Biden family has only one business to speak of: politics. Millions of dollars coming in, and the family business is politics, and the head of the family happened to be, at the time, the VP of the United States.

Coincidence? We'll see.
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Old 05-12-2023, 09:05 AM
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Pot, meet kettle, ROFLMBO, Unable to debate the facts he goes straight to whatabouwhatabouwhatabout!

This guy just cracks me up. Somebody issue him his DDDL membership card. In true Reich-winger fashion allegations and assertions equal fact. From the Reich-wing overlords: "Truth/evidence/facts are forthcoming folks, trust us!".
I'm done with this guy.
The above is a fine attempt at sidestepping my question and the hypocrisy that accompanies that move. You and your Dem pals in Congress and in the left-wing media pedaled false information and conducted multiple investigations about Russian collusion for years with far less "fact" than exists with the Biden bunch. So, go ahead and "be done" me me, so you don't dig yourself into a deeper hole.
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Old 05-12-2023, 09:46 AM
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Another great example of deflection, with a bit of spin thrown in for good measure.

Of course this - it's a "fact" that Biden did something that is "not at all clear" - is not at all what I said. You post a lie about what I said, then you include a post about Trump being "less tethered" to the truth. Hillarious!

Here's exactly what I said: There is evidence the Bidens took in millions from foreign interests via a number of LLC's that were controlled by Biden family members and associates. It is unclear what, if anything, was received in exchange for those services at the time payment was received.

For example:

As part of its investigation, the Committee is focusing on several entities that received funds from foreign companies. These include Owasco P.C.; Hudson West III, LLC; Robinson Walker, LLC; and Rosemont Seneca Bohai, LLC.  The amount of money involved in these financial transactions is significant. The wires and money transfers range from approximately $5,000 to at least $3 million.

Any services provided for these fees would likely have corresponding invoices, and the companies may also maintain books and records detailing the use of such funds. The parties should have contracts, agreements, or other communications setting forth the terms of the engagement and expectations of the parties. The Committee intends to obtain those materials—to the extent they exist—as part of its investigation.


These are facts. These facts are not in dispute.

Biden states that this evidence is not indicative of any wrongdoing. OK. But Biden has lied about this before. During one of the 2020 debates, Biden told us that 50 some national security folks said all of this was "Russian disinformation". We later find out that acting CIA director Mike Morrell put the whole thing together to assist the Bidens. It's a fact that Morrell provided this testimony under oath. It's also a fact no one is denying that this letter was a political prop. So, you'll pardon me if I don't take Biden at his word.

What is a fact is that the Biden family has only one business to speak of: politics. Millions of dollars coming in, and the family business is politics, and the head of the family happened to be, at the time, the VP of the United States.

Coincidence? We'll see.
You keep citing "facts", but every fucking one of your "facts"...is an opinion. Opinions are like assholes...everybody's got one.

Want a fact? Trump was found to be a sexual assault perpetrator by a jury of his peers.

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Old 05-12-2023, 10:05 AM
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You keep citing "facts", but every fucking one of your "facts"...is an opinion. Opinions are like assholes...everybody's got one.

Want a fact? Trump was found to be a sexual assault perpetrator by a jury of his peers.
On the contrary, they're facts in every sense of the word, and I've provided supporting links. If you want to regard them as "opinions", that's on you.
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Old 05-12-2023, 10:07 AM
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Your post is a classic example of deflection. Thank you.
Why is this deflection? Barr is also stating facts since he was in Trump's administration.
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Old 05-12-2023, 10:08 AM
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On the contrary, they're facts in every sense of the word, and I've provided supporting links. If you want to regard them as "opinions", that's on you.
You need a new shtick. You really suck at this.
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Old 05-12-2023, 11:44 AM
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It is unclear what, if anything, was received...

The Committee intends to obtain those materials—to the extent they exist... [/B] [/I]

These facts are not in dispute.
LOL. In other words, you got nothing. One would think you'd be smart enough not to trust clownish perverts and liars like Gym Jordan and James Comer.
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Old 05-12-2023, 01:45 PM
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On the contrary, they're facts in every sense of the word, and I've provided supporting links. If you want to regard them as "opinions", that's on you.
Supporting links don't prove anything other than there are other peoole out there just as fucking stupid as you. Supporting links are just somebody else's opinion you ignoramus. Your supporting links are from the alt-right...fucked up opinions all day long.

Want a fact? Here in the USA, today is Friday May 12, 2023.
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