CNN Does FOX Better than FOX

[Oerets]

Once one realizes the way Trump Cultists or even worse the enablers view our country and the world. How closed minded and full of hate, mixed with a ill placed sense of entitlement and superiority.

Then with this, the knowledge that nothing you will say or do will reach them. They have total discuss at any and all not followers.


Makes it very easy to have little to do with them. Life is to short and dealing with them is a waste of time.


""Recognizing a fool is a bold step toward saving you an argument with such people and walking away.

Fools have a fixed mindset
They always bring up stupid logic to support their theory
Despite what you mention or say, they will always try to bring you down to their playing field
They believe their ways to be correct, and they are the only ways that will work for anyone
They are never open to new ideas
They will go to any level to prove their point

If you find yourself in an argument with a fool, it’s prudent you just stop and walk away. Immediately you start arguing with a fool, you’ve already lost. A fool will never make an effort to understand your idea or perspective. They are always right. So why don’t you save yourself at that moment and do something better in your life?""

https://mindblood.com/arguing-with-fools-quotes/



“Never argue with an idiot they’ll drag you down to their level and beat you through experience.” – Mark Twain

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by GChief

They are going to ask until he admits he is full of shit. That will never happen so they will keep talking about it.

Surely you don't think Trump would wait to be asked. But CNN was cynically pandering to Trump for the ratings, even if the actual journalist trying to MC the Town Hall thing was hoping to play it straight.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Words have meaning. If you want to be properly understood, learn to communicate better. The onus is on he who wishes to communicate a point to make that point clear. You didn't.

Leave it to you to be a twerp about it.

Originally Posted by finnbow

Wrong again. 61% of Republicans say that Biden won due to voter fraud.

Still a twerp. And I don't buy the poll results. Pollster's track record over the last 2 election cycles isn't exactly stellar.

[whell]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

Thanks for refuting that bullshit for me. You just happened to get to it before I did. whell seems to believe if tRump says it and he believes it, it must be true. He seems to think it's alright if people believe tRump's lies. As far as his lie about the election, tRump's been bringing it up every chance he gotten since election day and there have been plenty of Republican politicians going along with it. It seems like ol' whell is just in another shit stirring mood.

Originally Posted by Rajoo

So you want us to agree to give a formidable liar who is also promoting the stolen conspiracy a forum to communicate?

Wait till other kooks demand equal time.

Trump's speech needs to be regulated but under our constitution, not possible. Best we can do is to deny him an audience. Besides he keeps repeating the same nonsense of victim hood, grievance or stolen election. So why keep letting him repeat the same lies?

With the forum on CNN yesterday, the anti-Trump GOP is actually bitching about it. CNN by their stupidity (they are going to lose viewership) may have promoted Trump's candidacy further, which we all know will come crashing, when he is indicted of the really serious crimes.

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

The point? Your point is the point on the top of your pointy little head.

Trump is a sociopathic grifter, a sexual assault perp, and a seditionist traitor. His opinions are the opinions of a malignant narcissist. These are facts.

On top of everything else, Mikey doesn't know the difference between opinions and facts. If you're trying to say that it's a fact that Trump has opinions, thats fine, even though it doesnt mean jack shit about anything. Particularly about this subhuman shitbag having the "big picture" on anything besides now to use the legal system to screw innocent, hard working people out of their hard earned money.

Like everybody else, Trump has opinions...and opinions are like assholes, everybodys got one. Trump's stink to high heaven.

So, let me see if I can distill what you folks are saying:

You believe Trump is a liar, a fraud, a (insert your pejorative of choice here). Therefore, even as a former President, he should not be given any airtime whatsoever. Specifically to last night, even though CNN will be hosting town halls for other candidates, they should not have scheduled a town hall for Trump. In fact, any news outlet that gives Trump airtime is at the very least ethically challenged and at most guilty of journalistic malpractice. Does that sum things up?

[whell]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

Trump's speech needs to be regulated but under our constitution, not possible. Best we can do is to deny him an audience. Besides he keeps repeating the same nonsense of victim hood, grievance or stolen election. So why keep letting him repeat the same lies?

Then why does the media - not just CNN - keep bringing it up? Trump didn't bring up the 2020 election yesterday. CNN did.

[whell]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

whell seems to believe if tRump says it and he believes it, it must be true. He seems to think it's alright if people believe tRump's lies. As far as his lie about the election, tRump's been bringing it up every chance he gotten since election day and there have been plenty of Republican politicians going along with it. It seems like ol' whell is just in another shit stirring mood.

Uh, no that's not what I said.

1) If Trump or any candidate has an opinion about something in the political realm, it is news.

Example: Obama may have believed that "if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor." Or maybe it was just an opinion. Or maybe he knew it was an outright lie. I tend to believe the latter because - for example - the grandfathering provisions of the ACA would make it damn near impossible to keep an employer's health plan grandfathered. That Omama made this statement is a fact. It might not have been a factual statement, but it is a fact that the statement was made by Obama.

Even if it was a bald-faced pants-on-fire lie, it deserved to be heard so folks could make up their own minds about it. Obama said it and said it in the context of advocating for a major piece of legislation, so it is a fact that Obama and the Dens wanted folks to believe it.

If Trump is stating that the 2020 election was rigged, it's a fact that Trump said it and wants folks to believe it. I don't agree that such things need censoring or need some media talking head to explain people.

Certainly, the media can and should ask challenging questions, and the host did so last night and did it fairly well. To deny folks the opportunity to see a politician respond to tough questions should not be denied to viewers because or or anyone else thinks that politician is a liar. Hell, by that standard, we'd never see another town hall or political debate ever again.

2) I'm not afraid to learn the truth, just like I'm not afraid to hear a politician lie. Both of these things happen to me quite frequently when watching politicians on TV.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by Chicks

The truly amusing thing about Whell is that, as an HR guy, he knows full well that the Orange Buffoon's antics would make him completely ineligible to run even the tiniest publicly-held company, yet he can't seem to shake his absolute loyalty to the ass. It's baffling, but somehow he thinks his bullshit arguments are "reasonable". ROFL.

You can't be a trumper and not be a racist. Trump said it...those nazis are good people. Trumper = racist.

[RickeyM]

I don't necessarily believe every trumper is a racist but my opinion agrees with this...

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by whell

So, let me see if I can distill what you folks are saying:

You believe Trump is a liar, a fraud, a (insert your pejorative of choice here). Therefore, even as a former President, he should not be given any airtime whatsoever. Specifically to last night, even though CNN will be hosting town halls for other candidates, they should not have scheduled a town hall for Trump. In fact, any news outlet that gives Trump airtime is at the very least ethically challenged and at most guilty of journalistic malpractice. Does that sum things up?

tRump has been proven to be a liar, fact. tRump has been proven to be a fraud, fact. tRump is a convicted sexual assaulter, fact. As such he should be nowhere near any levers of power and holding a position of the leader of the free world. That last part is the fact of my opinion and I don't give a good goddam how popular he is. Media attention is at least partly responsible for him getting elected in the first place. A fact I'll leave you with is that Adolph Hitler was very popular at one point too. Before you go off on a tangent, no I am not comparing tRump to Hitler. Only that Germany at one time was all in on a "popular" leader and we see where that got them.

[whell]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

tRump has been proven to be a liar, fact. tRump has been proven to be a fraud, fact. tRump is a convicted sexual assaulter, fact. As such he should be nowhere near any levers of power and holding a position of the leader of the free world .

Biden is a proven liar. Fact. Biden has made racist comments. Fact. A woman has alleged that Biden sexually assaulted her, and multiple women have accused him of inappropriate touching. Fact. Biden has denied the former but admitted to the latter. Fact. There is much evidence to sustain an allegation that the Bidens and their "business partners" took in millions of dollars, in exchange for what is not at all clear. Fact. This included payments from a Romanian fat cat during a time when Biden was Veep, and was also involved in Romanian foreign affairs. Fact.

So, by your standards, Biden should also "be nowhere near any levers of power and holding a position of the leader of the free world", correct?