What got Trump elected in 2016

[Ike Bana]

"Your both part of the overall problem."

People like this who said there's no difference between Trump and Clinton, that there's no difference between the parties...are responsible for four years of the Trump criminal enterprise in the White House, and also responsible for one of the parties becoming the Sedition and Insurrection Party.

[GChief]

Whatever... lol...
Your thinking way to hard for that truthful statement.

Both extremes are nothing but rage and hate filled noise that do everything they can to not negotiate and comprise.

And of course you will go high and right (or left ) and wrap up the neo-nazi asshats into it somehow.

[Pio1980]

Maybe I'm just not seeing a corollary to Trump, MAGA, MTG, and the other dominant whack jobs down to the obstructionist like Gingrich, Graham, McConnel and others in the Dems.
I'm pretty much in the co-existence/ compromise camp. F. I., I thought the bakers lawsuits on cakes was a stupid mistake and a bad strategy overall for reasons that should have been obvious.
I may not always know who my true friends are, but my sworn adversaries out themselves by their actions.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by GChief

Whatever... lol...
Your thinking way to hard for that truthful statement.

Both extremes are nothing but rage and hate filled noise that do everything they can to not negotiate and comprise.

And of course you will go high and right (or left ) and wrap up the neo-nazi asshats into it somehow.

IMO one group (guess which one) has way more extremists running things than the other.

[Mark B]

Originally Posted by GChief

Whatever... lol...
Your thinking way to hard for that truthful statement.

Both extremes are nothing but rage and hate filled noise that do everything they can to not negotiate and comprise.

And of course you will go high and right (or left ) and wrap up the neo-nazi asshats into it somehow.

Gotta call you on that Chief, there's no equivalent between the two, AND there are vastly more right wing extremists in the US.

How many left wing extremists identify themselves as Democrats? Damned few if any.

How many right wing extremists identify themselves as Republicans? Almost all of them.

[Rajoo]

From Atlantic:

You don’t see Democratic House members wielding weapons in videos and threatening to shoot candidates who want to cut capital-gains taxes or slow the growth of Medicare. Democratic candidates for Senate do not post video fantasies of hunting and executing political rivals, or of using a firearm to discipline their children’s romantic partners. It’s not because of Democratic members that Speaker Nancy Pelosi installed metal detectors to bar firearms from the floor of the House. No Democratic equivalent exists of Donald Trump, who regularly praises and encourages violence as a normal tool of politics, most recently against his own party’s Senate leader, Mitch McConnell. As the formerly Trump-leaning Wall Street Journal editorialized on October 2: “It’s all too easy to imagine some fanatic taking Mr. Trump seriously and literally, and attempting to kill Mr. McConnell. Many supporters took Mr. Trump’s rhetoric about former Vice President Mike Pence all too seriously on Jan. 6.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...olence/671934/

[Oerets]

The very ones who use the "Politicians are all corrupt" "Hillery is no different then Trump".....

Are IMHO vainly attempting to justify supporting a very flawed individual. So are using imaginary stories that make the supporting easier. Suspending reality for one made up to comfort this decision.

Make them feel better about themselves.

[GChief]

Originally Posted by Mark B

Gotta call you on that Chief, there's no equivalent between the two, AND there are vastly more right wing extremists in the US.

How many left wing extremists identify themselves as Democrats? Damned few if any.

How many right wing extremists identify themselves as Republicans? Almost all of them.

See you went straight to my last sentence! My point is both extremes hate/fear each other so much that there is zero dialog other that rage filled name calling so nothing is going to change. The division will just continue and grow until good fate discussions can be had with compromises reached somewhere in the middle. Any of the polarizing issues can be addressed, just not by either extreme.

Cheers

[Oerets]

My experiences a majority of the time being most of the New Republicans I know. You can not have a quiet conversation. Quickly goes to what about and non relevant directions. Full of unsubstantiated arguments.

Most of the time reminds me of talking to six year old kids. Get tired of hearing " I'm entitled to my beliefs".... Thinking all the time to myself, OK be stupid them! Just don't be upset if I don't...agree with you and think your wrong.

[GChief]

I feel ya... work with many. I am trying to do my part though, I have broken down more than a few barriers and "opened" a few minds on both teams. I don't try and change their conservative views just as I don't try and change someone's progressive views, I just try to get them to have some empathy for others POV and then have the how do we compromise discussion.

It can be fun 8 beers into it...