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They induce fear based on outright lies and fear is the most basic and dominant emotion.
They will take away your guns.
You will lose your religious liberty.
LGBT, your children will be groomed.
Xenophobia, they will take your jobs.
Of course, there are several more.
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It's like "They're united against us so we must be united against them".
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The Republican party: Divide and conquer.
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When wielded correctly fear is a very powerful weapon.
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Rajoo, I believe it is that same fear that has led to some of the recent shootings of victims doing innocent acts like ringing the wrong door bell. Without that fear would the man have answered the door with a weapon at the ready? Would he have fired that weapon through the door had he not been fearful? I am not trying to make excuses for what he did. But, I can understand why he was fearful.
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I believe that this is a case though motivated from fear of reacting rather than responding. Response would have been, "go away, I have a gun" or "I have called the cops". Of course, I do not know the circumstances or the neighborhood. But here is a case where its obvious a person who is not well trained (militia anyone) should not own a gun.
In the case of the home owner shooting a young woman in he car who was lost and drove up to his house is strictly an act of belligerence. He lived on a 40 acre wooded property with a driveway that perhaps stretched a few hundred yards. Why didn't he simply put a gate to prevent cars driving up to his house?
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Rajoo, I believe it is that same fear that has led to some of the recent shootings of victims doing innocent acts like ringing the wrong door bell. Without that fear would the man have answered the door with a weapon at the ready? Would he have fired that weapon through the door had he not been fearful? I am not trying to make excuses for what he did. But, I can understand why he was fearful.
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Exactly. My first thought was that old man sits around the house, glued to the Fox news network. Then his grandson came out and verified it.
That's what I'm railing about; the fear manufacturers.
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04-21-2023, 12:51 PM
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Re: my comment about being a very powerful weapon. A certain party has made it their business to drive it. Much more than anyone else.
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Re: my comment about being a very powerful weapon. A certain party has made it their business to drive it. Much more than anyone else.
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It is not the GOP.
Who controls the media ? It is a 'party' of people, but they don't identify themsleves. It's an intelligencia / propanganda group.
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Exactly. My first thought was that old man sits around the house, glued to the Fox news network. Then his grandson came out and verified it.
That's what I'm railing about; the fear manufacturers.
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It is not the GOP.
Who controls the media ? It is a 'party' of people, but they don't identify themsleves. It's an intelligencia / propanganda group.
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Different media, different people. There is no "the media."
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It is not the GOP.
Who controls the media ? It is a 'party' of people, but they don't identify themsleves. It's an intelligencia / propanganda group.
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Propaganda, like everything else in the world of mankind, happens on a continuim. If we want to estimate the balance, we can. If we want to measure the balance, we can try. It's all opinion either way, so here's my opinion. The majority...the vast majority of the propaganda comes from the right end of the contonuim.
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Different media, different people. There is no "the media."
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The media. It's were all modern wars begin.
I have an opinion on who runs Google, the wikis, YouTube. Highly contested, not just for the money, but social / political influence as well.
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Propaganda, like everything else in the world of mankind, happens on a continuim. If we want to estimate the balance, we can. If we want to measure the balance, we can try. It's all opinion either way, so here's my opinion. The majority...the vast majority of the propaganda comes from the right end of the contonuim.
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I agree. At least in the CONUS, that is. But it's not the GOP. It's the _ _ _.
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