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04-08-2023, 08:46 AM
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there are just as many "mentally ill" people per capita in the UK as there are in this country...and yet our gun homicide rate is 40 times the rate in the UK...FORTY FUCKING TIMES. "Mental health", my ass. One last thing, the people of this country are fucked up...comparative homicide (of all types) rates...
United States.........7.2 per one hundred thousand population (6.52 OF THOSE ARE GUN HOMICIDES)
United Kingdom......11.7 per MILLION POPULATION.
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Yep, and it’s a similar story for Australia.
The problem is guns, full stop.
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04-08-2023, 09:10 AM
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Of course you're confused. The only legitimate "mental health side of it" is the side where you gunners and your feckless politicians provide a model for how the "mental health side of it" is going to prevent those who are not mentally healthy from purchasing guns and war weapons. How is that going to work, is every American who wants a gun license going to be sent to a specially trained mental health professional for a specific evaluation on whether they are mentally healthy enough to own/carry a gun or a war weapon? Who's going to decide who is qualified to make that medical determination? Who's going to pay for it? Do you know what "mental illness" is? Do you know the differences between mood disorders, thought disorders, and affective disorders? Do you know what symptomology in each would suggest that one is not suitable for gun or war weapon ownership?
That is a matter of opinion. In my humble clinical opinion there is no reasonable gun control that you would support that would have prevented 20 six year olds in a classroom at Sandy Hook Elementary School from being massacred...or 52 in the audience at a Las Vegas music festival from being massacred. If you have something, put it up here, for christ's sake.
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Yeah right.
As DQ pointed out, there are not enough soldiers to enact a forced confiscation of guns in the USA. You're suggesting every gun owner meet with a Psychiatrist in order to get a liscense ? And what; spend six hours taking the MMPI?
I don't see that happening.
It's more likely they'll try to profile people based on their internet 'content'.
Like you do to me, instinctively, or out of habit. Pigeonholing me in with the right wingers.
I'm not anti-semitic; I talk about the political Zionists. There are many other groups that speak a Semitic language.
Your 'hate' of 'hatred' is not a paradox. You can't hate a bigot, without being one your ownself.
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04-08-2023, 10:39 AM
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Any ideas why?
Still waiting for your ideas about how to apply "mental illness" restrictions to gun ownership that will prevent mass shootings by the "mentally ill".
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I would hope a requirement of a permitting process with training and testing. By skilled professionals. Will help in this matter. Weeding out those with issues once in the open. Tailor the screening processes. Just the added steps involved alone may be enough of a deterrent for a large percentage.
Doing nothing is not working now. The steps suggested may not be sufficient, until tried only speculation.
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04-08-2023, 10:45 AM
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The GOP believes in unrestricted access to possess weapons of war but not to engage in peaceful protest or use FDA approved medication. One hell of a party platform.
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04-08-2023, 10:58 AM
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Yeah right.
As DQ pointed out, there are not enough soldiers to enact a forced confiscation of guns in the USA. You're suggesting every gun owner meet with a Psychiatrist in order to get a liscense ? And what; spend six hours taking the MMPI?
I don't see that happening.
It's more likely they'll try to profile people based on their internet 'content'.
Like you do to me, instinctively, or out of habit. Pigeonholing me in with the right wingers.
I'm not anti-semitic; I talk about the political Zionists. There are many other groups that speak a Semitic language.
Your 'hate' of 'hatred' is not a paradox. You can't hate a bigot, without being one your ownself.
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A point: I said we didn't have enough troops in Iraq to do it in Iraq. Not that it would be easy here either....
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04-08-2023, 11:05 AM
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After the Nashville, TN school shooting, here are some comments from one of the state representatives.
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Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN) on school shootings:
"We're not gonna fix it."
REPORTER: "What else should be done to protect people like your little girl?"
BURCHETT: "Well, we homeschool her."
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“If you want to legislate evil, it’s just not going to happen,” Burchett said. "We need a real revival in this country. Let’s call on our Christian ministers and our people of faith.”
He added: “If you think Washington is going to fix this problem, you’re wrong. They’re not going to fix this problem. They are the problem.”
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So if I am reading him correctly, its thoughts and prayers again. At least he is not mincing his words.
https://twitter.com/brenonade/status...12268927418368
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...-fix-rcna77185
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04-08-2023, 12:01 PM
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He's right, with the current House and Senate Washington is not going to fix the problem, Washington is the problem. The R's are making sure of it. It's what they want.
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04-08-2023, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Rajoo
After the Nashville, TN school shooting, here are some comments from one of the state representatives.
“If you want to legislate evil, it’s just not going to happen,” Burchett said. "We need a real revival in this country. Let’s call on our Christian ministers and our people of faith.”
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What this moron fails to say is that the school that was shot up in Nashville was a Christian school.
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04-08-2023, 11:40 PM
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A point: I said we didn't have enough troops in Iraq to do it in Iraq. Not that it would be easy here either....
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Duly noted. I was extrapolating on your train of thought.
It looks to me like you die hard Blue guys want to prevent a Red police state, by imposing a more rational appearing Blue police state.
Psychological testing, or pyschometrics, designed to improve society were known as social eugenics. Which people get to procreate, which people get the shit jobs, which one go to the gas chamber.
I still like what's left of the ever diminishing freedom we have in this country.
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04-09-2023, 04:13 AM
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You will need to back that statement up.
From what I know, US corporations via Wall Street control US economy under the watchful eyes of the Federal Reserve System & Federal Trade Commission.
Yes, Jewish Americans have founded some prominent American companies; Google, FB, Oracle come to mind.
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I've already done this, will continue to do this, in threads in which it's more on topic.
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