Assault weapons

[GChief]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

The resistance to "red flag" regulation for irresponsible, irrational, or hostile behavior involving deadly instruments is a major obstacle for the literal "infringement" folks.
The alternative to the communally sensible implementation is the repeal of the second amendment to "disarm" that defense of the indefensible, and I do not see that happening anytime soon (if ever), even with popular support.
I'm in the position of seeing both Chiefs and Ikes viewpoints as valid positions on this issue.

Hitting the like button...

[RickeyM]

We outscore every other civilized nation on the planet in mass shootings. What are we doing wrong that the others doing right.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by GChief

Its the same weapon with the same capabilities no mods needed, just swap the stock. The non-scary version will take the same mag.

A fully automatic assault rifle will empty a 30 round magazine in two seconds. A bump stock modified AR-15 will empty a 30 round magazine in four seconds. A standard unmodified semi-auto AR-15 will empty a 30 round magazine in six seconds. The difference between them will not change the outcome in a classroom full of six year olds. In fact the semi is more dangerous because it's more accurate. It's pretty impossible to do much aiming in two seconds, or when your weapon is bouncing around in your hands.

So, bump stocks are outlawed and possession of full auto weapons is illegal. So fucking what? Which I guess is what the Chief is saying above...I prefer not to make light of it, however.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

The "white supremist christian nationalists" have not been been in power and control of the US economy for over 100 years, the Zionist have this control, and they will retain this control even over the Democrats.

I'll be back to addres the "blood libel bullshit". It's not what Ike thinks it is. Gotta go to work, and be a good slave.

OK, let's call a spade a spade then...your first sentence is typical nazi hate bullshit propaganda. You are outed.

Your sentence number two...address away, I don't give a shit.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by GChief

Its the same weapon with the same capabilities no mods needed, just swap the stock. The non-scary version will take the same mag.

That would have been my question, as the second was shown without a mag.

We aren't actually gun idiots, you know.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by GChief

Until we "fix" the mental health side of this reasonable gun regulations will do little.

I've been a licensed mental health professional since 1993. The conjobs have been harping on the "mental health" aspect of gun violence since Whitman.

The NRA has opposed any real "mental health" limits on licensing right from the beginning. Hell...the NRA thinks one can be legally blind and still get a gun license. Nobody on the right, not one politician, not one alleged "enlightened" conservative has ever come up with a workable plan to keep guns out of the hands of the "mentally ill." They don't even have a working knowledge of what "mentally ill" actually is...because if they did they wouldn't make stupid political comments like "we have to keep firearms out of the hands of the menatlly ill."

I know, let's spend our tax dollars to have every American over the age of 12, given a standard mental status evaluation, so that everybody in the country will have a record of whether they are "mentally healthy" enough to qualify for a gun license. You want your tax dollars spend on this Chief?

Even in the states with the most restrictive gun laws there's no way to be able to keep a gun out of the hands of someone who will shoot up a classroom. "Mental Health" is a fucking right-wing political canard that is spewed constantly to keep any real firearms regulation from happening.

What's your plan for keeping guns out of the hands of the "mentally ill", Chief? What does "mentally ill" mean to you, Chief?

Waiting....

PS - there are just as many "mentally ill" people per capita in the UK as there are in this country...and yet our gun homicide rate is 40 times the rate in the UK...FORTY FUCKING TIMES. "Mental health", my ass. One last thing, the people of this country are fucked up...comparative homicide (of all types) rates...

United States.........7.2 per one hundred thousand population (6.52 OF THOSE ARE GUN HOMICIDES)
United Kingdom......11.7 per MILLION POPULATION.

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

The Romans crucified Christ, because they wanted to retain law and order in Jerusalem, but they did not have enough boots on the grounds to fight the Jews until 70 years later.

They did not even want to do it because Jesus had not broken any of their laws, only the Jewish law of blaspheme against a God they did not believe in.

The "white supremist christian nationalists" have not been been in power and control of the US economy for over 100 years, the Zionist have this control, and they will retain this control even over the Democrats.

We just have be thankful for these boon years. And they have been good. Now it's time to pay up what we owe, and die homeless without proper medical care or food. Or join the military in it's crusade against Communists and the enemies of the Nation State Israel.

I'll be back to addres the "blood libel bullshit". It's not what Ike thinks it is. Gotta go to work, and be a good slave.

The Christian white supremacy denigration of blacks to justify slavery as an economic model goes back to colonial times to the present, and has absolutely nothing to do with Hebrew influence or Zionism. Christian white supremacy predates the founding of the US and contaminates its culture to the present.

[GChief]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

That would have been my question, as the second was shown without a mag.

We aren't actually gun idiots, you know.

It actually has the 10 rd mag that they come with in it. The other is the exact same rifle with accessories. My point it that the "assault weapon" thing is a moving target. Both are the same rifle yet the scary one would be banned. The high capacity mags are aftermarket. My AR15 came with a 5 and 10 rd mag, anything larger would need to be purchased by me.

I have a Blackhawk stock on my pump waterfowl hunting shotgun, it reduces felt recoil and has a pistol grip for more control. The current versions of "assault weapons" bans being pushed would would ban it because of looks. The function and capabilities do not change, they are exactly the same as with either "look". Well one change would be shooting 3.5" shells at geese all day, the Blackhawk stock makes it fell like just another 2.75" #8.

[GChief]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

The Christian white supremacy denigration of blacks to justify slavery as an economic model goes back to colonial times to the present, and has absolutely nothing to do with Hebrew influence or Zionism. Christian white supremacy predates the founding of the US and contaminates its culture to the present.

Hitting the like button again.

[Pio1980]

The whole "black rifle" thing has gone from a marketing ploy to revive sales to a symbolic political statement for the second amendment mob.
Pretty much a "Fuck your feelings" statement from folks in snowflake meltdown over "social justice warriers" defending the other Constitutionally guaranteed rights.