Another Mass Shooting in the Good Ol' USA

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by whell

Let's solve one issue at a time.

If these shootings have a pattern, if the shooters have a pattern, then let's find solutions around that angle.

OK by me.

Shooting have a pattern? Yes, they involve a gun.

Shooters have a pattern? Yes, they us a gun.

So what is the common denominator? Gun.

Solution: Get rid of guns.

[RickeyM]

While the chances of that happening don't exist banning certain types of weapons with certain capabilities should be an achievable goal.

[Oerets]

One avenue that is overlooked by many. Is the violence in film, TV programing video games.

With the vast amount of hours spent and dollars in this country it has to be having an effect on society. Some of the top grossing film and games are very violent and our children are being exposed at a very early age. Toy guns an example of a gift for many years.

[Mark B]

Originally Posted by Oerets

One avenue that is overlooked by many. Is the violence in film, TV programing video games.

With the vast amount of hours spent and dollars in this country it has to be having an effect on society. Some of the top grossing film and games are very violent and our children are being exposed at a very early age. Toy guns an example of a gift for many years.

All that is true for virtually every First World country, but the United States alone of those countries suffers from a scourge of mass murders committed using assault weapons.

[Oerets]

Agreed, the point being from me was we start from this premises perspectives. Violence against others as comfortable even enjoyable entertainment.

Then add the easy access to firearms without any real oversights. Regulations enforced in other countries with it seems flavorful results. Other countries must have different view towards community and responsibilities. Over profits for the sellers of deaths, destruction and heartache.

This country is losing it common bond of community. Evolving, or migrating into separate camps unable to communicate respectfully.

Will state again I'm for the restriction of weapons now labeled as Assault. Being a Realist think steps of regulations to include registrations background checks training requiring insurance is the path forward.

Allow ownership just make it a "Well Regulated" one. Then if or when this is shown to be insufficient removal would be warranted.

[Pio1980]

I think abandoning the pliable term "assault" for more specific criteria, say, high capacity/ rapid fire combat/tactical type firearm weaponry. The sort designed for high rate of warfare suited sustained rapid firepower not normally used for hunting and target shooting.

[Oerets]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

I think abandoning the pliable term "assault" for more specific criteria, say, high capacity/ rapid fire combat/tactical type firearm weaponry. The sort designed for high rate of warfare suited sustained rapid firepower not normally used for hunting and target shooting.

Right, Pistols need to be in any legislation, regulation put into force.

[GChief]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

I think abandoning the pliable term "assault" for more specific criteria, say, high capacity/ rapid fire combat/tactical type firearm weaponry. The sort designed for high rate of warfare suited sustained rapid firepower not normally used for hunting and target shooting.

This ^^^
Its not about the scary looking weapon, they all shoot popular hunting rounds.

Which below would be banned with the current "Assault Weapons" frenzy. Banning either gun would be meaningless. But which would be banned in the current climate.

[RickeyM]

If the first one were limited to a five round clip I think the argument of "I like it for hunting" would evaporate. How much of that extra gear is needed for varmint shootin'?

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by GChief

This ^^^
Its not about the scary looking weapon, they all shoot popular hunting rounds.

Which below would be banned with the current "Assault Weapons" frenzy. Banning either gun would be meaningless. But which would be banned in the current climate.

Hmmm...how would you feel about talk of 'scary-looking regulation' and 'current gun-ownership frenzy?'

We are agreeing that a good definition of what weapons should be more regulated is wanted. Do you have specific suggestions to improve on "high capacity/rapid fire?"