Another Mass Shooting in the Good Ol' USA

[Oerets]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

Drag Queens and Transgenders don't "sponsor" Republican politicians.

Neither do dead children.......

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Is your most effective form of debate creating straw dogs and putting words in other people's mouths? I ask because you do it all the time. Whenever you start a sentence with "So, you're saying...", what follows is complete BS.

If the #1 job of the government is to protect its citizens, why are folks like you so interested in infringing upon a citizen's right to do so?

You said "Looking to the government to provide a "solution" to a problem - which does nothing to get to the root cause of the problem - is idiocy." How is that materially different from what I said? Hint: It isn't. You can be relied upon to come up with your "strawman defense" whenever you're shown to be a disingenuous troll.

Preventing deranged people from having easy access to assault weapons is not infringing upon a citizen's rights to protect themselves. Indeed it contributes greatly to the danger from which they need to be protected. BTW, the AR-15, while being a great infantryman's weapon of war, isn't a particularly good home-defense weapon. A pump-action shotgun is far better.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by whell

Is your most effective form of debate creating straw dogs and putting words in other people's mouths? I ask because you do it all the time. Whenever you start a sentence with "So, you're saying...", what follows is complete BS.

If the #1 job of the government is to protect its citizens, why are folks like you so interested in infringing upon a citizen's right to do so?

Just woke up, on my first cup of coffee and I read this!

So are we infringing on the rights of "your people" to own assault weapons, so that they can walk into schools and shoot school children for sport?

Or in order to ensure such rights, schools need to be converted into prisons?

PS: Don't even bother with the mental health disease bullshit. With adequate gun control, these people would not be allowed to own any weapon, let alone an AR-15.

[Chicks]

‘I see this as a global fascist moment’: author Jeff Sharlet on interviewing far-right Americans
Sharlet, who spent a dozen years talking to ordinary people about their predilection for violence, has long sounded the alarm
https://amp.theguardian.com/books/20...religion-trump

Whell’s World. Viscous, hateful, nasty, disgusting fools.

[Chicks]

A tense exchange on Capitol Hill that perfectly captures America’s divide on guns
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/30/polit...lle/index.html

Disgusting Reps MTG and Massie perfectly capture Whell's World. Hateful, unrelenting, uncaring.

[Chicks]

‘Not Going to Fix It’ Lawmaker Now Says ‘Repenting Sins’ Only Solution to School Shootings
Rep. Tim Burchett doesn't seem to realize why people are upset that he threw up his hands about the routine slaughtering of America's children
https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...gs-1234706287/

Another illustration of the utter cluelessness of the idiot residents of Whell's World.

[Chicks]

[Oerets]

Originally Posted by Chicks

They need air power, planes plenty of them.
NOW!

Tanks too!

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

You said "Looking to the government to provide a "solution" to a problem - which does nothing to get to the root cause of the problem - is idiocy." How is that materially different from what I said? Hint: It isn't. You can be relied upon to come up with your "strawman defense" whenever you're shown to be a disingenuous troll.

Preventing deranged people from having easy access to assault weapons is not infringing upon a citizen's rights to protect themselves. Indeed it contributes greatly to the danger from which they need to be protected. BTW, the AR-15, while being a great infantryman's weapon of war, isn't a particularly good home-defense weapon. A pump-action shotgun is far better.

More bullshit. It is different. Your contention is that "reasonable gun control laws" - which is a nice euphemism that lacks any specifics - is the solution.

Idiocy, and intellectually lazy. Guns have been with us for years, and have always been accompanied by the left's desire to limit access to them. The left has always maintained that "getting guns off the streets" will reduce violent crime.

You specifically said: "BTW, the root cause of the problem is the number and availability of guns in the US." Well, you have stated that you own firearms. By your own definition of "root cause", the desire to commit a violent crime should be irresistible to you, since guns are available to you and you're among the owners of those "too many guns".

You'll reject that argument because you've never used your guns in the commission of a crime. Fair enough. But what is it that keeps you from using your gun to commit a crime if it's not that you own one of the too many guns? Could it be....gasp...the person that you are that would keep you from a life of a gun-wielding criminal?

The fact is that violent crimes have been trending downward for years despite the Fed's inability to pass laws banning access to certain types of guns, and despite your contention that "the root cause of the problem is the number and availability of guns in the US".

Yes, mass shootings have been on the rise, but:

- Not all of these shootings have involved 'assault weapons".
- The shooter in the most recent example slipped through existing regs.
- Mass shootings have also occurred in jurisdictions with the strictest gun control laws.

So yes, taking Federal action to reduce mass shootings - when that action is highly unlikely to solve the problem - while simultaneously making firearms harder to acquire, is idiocy.

[Oerets]

A simple question on gun control.

At what level of deaths a day, would it take for you to agree to stricter gun law to combat?

One, ten, fifty, a hundred, two hundred?


Just checked it is 116~114 deaths a day now.

Google search....
116 deaths
So far, 6,278 people have been died from gun violence this year in the U.S, as of Feb. 23, according to the Gun Violence Archive – which is roughly an average of 116 deaths each day.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/116-people...s%20each%20day.
""So far in 2023, 9,870 people have died from gun violence in the U.S, as of March 27, according to the Gun Violence Archive – which is an average of more than 114 deaths each day.""



If putting a number on this problem means little, then what does that say about you?