The Biden Economy

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Doubling down on a MAGA twit getting his feelings hurt being the equivalent of the nation's biggest cable news outlet knowingly propagating the Big Lie for profit, resulting in an insurrection and economic damage and death threats to a private company?

You are apparently unaware how your undying loyalty to Trump and his primary propaganda outlet make you look like a delusional fool.

Once again, I recommend you show a touch of humility and take the loss instead of doubling down on your MAGA-inspired stupidity.

You can put your recommendation where the sun doesn't shine, right next the all the other fertilizer you're peddling.

You ignore everything else I posted, and just focus on the one instance, so you can continue to deflect. The funniest thing is, its a great example of WaPo rushing out a story without fact-checking to support a narrative. It's EXACTLY the same thing that you're accusing Fox of doing. Feckin' hypocrite.

And right one queue, there's your pal Chicklet chiming in with another narrative that's being passed around this morning trying to spin the Ohio train derailment on the previous administration. Yes, your favorite outlet WaPo hasn't learned - they're repeating the same BS story as well. Gotta keep those lefty mouses clicking to keep that ad revenue coming in.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by Chicks

Whell’s hero.

Originally Posted by whell

There is no investigative report that derailment was caused by failing, defective or deficient breaks, genius. In fact, the investigation is still ongoing and there are no conclusions yet, though early indicators point to mechanical failure or an axle, wheel or bearing on one of the cars.

In other words, there's no evidence suggesting that applying the train's breaks (or an advanced breaking system that was not installed) would have prevented the cars from derailing.

But hey, in Chicklet's world, don't let the facts get in the way of blaming someone else for something.

Where in what he posted does it refer to the tragedy in East Palestine? Is your "fascination" with Chicks having you see things that are not there?

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

There is no investigative report that derailment was caused by failing, defective or deficient breaks, genius. In fact, the investigation is still ongoing and there are no conclusions yet, though early indicators point to mechanical failure or an axle, wheel or bearing on one of the cars.

In other words, there's no evidence suggesting that applying the train's breaks (or an advanced breaking system that was not installed) would have prevented the cars from derailing.

But hey, in Chicklet's world, don't let the facts get in the way of blaming someone else for something.

Yet Republicans are demanding Buttigieg's resignation.
https://justthenews.com/government/c...one-suggesting

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Yet Republicans are demanding Buttigieg's resignation.
https://justthenews.com/government/c...one-suggesting

Gotta deflect from this.

[whell]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

Where in what he posted does it refer to the tragedy in East Palestine? Is your "fascination" with Chicks having you see things that are not there?

It's all over the lefty news today. Maybe you need to catch up with your daily echo chamber allowance?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-safety-record

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023...ine-ohio-train

I mean, seriously, do you really think Chickie had an original thought, and went back and found that tweet from Trump on his own? In the words of our Prez, "C'mon man!"

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Yet Republicans are demanding Buttigieg's resignation.
https://justthenews.com/government/c...one-suggesting

Repubs are looking to throw blame around since next year is an election year. Dems do the same when shit like this happens. Makes about as much sense as blaming Trump for the train derailment.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Repubs are looking to throw blame around since next year is an election year. Dems do the same when shit like this happens. Makes about as much sense as blaming Trump for the train derailment.

Every year is either an election year or the year before an election year. That said, it makes more sense to criticize Republicans deliberate deregulation of rail safety systems (track inspections and breaking systems) than it does to blame Buttigieg for serving in a department whose safety regulations were watered down by the previous administration.

Accordingly, what is happening here is that Republicans are once again engaging in misdirection/projection - cynically heaping blame on Buttigieg to distract from the fact that Trump relaxed rail safety regulations aimed at reducing the likelihood of events like East Palestine.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

There is no investigative report that derailment was caused by failing, defective or deficient breaks, genius. In fact, the investigation is still ongoing and there are no conclusions yet, though early indicators point to mechanical failure or an axle, wheel or bearing on one of the cars.

In other words, there's no evidence suggesting that applying the train's breaks (or an advanced breaking system that was not installed) would have prevented the cars from derailing.

But hey, in Chicklet's world, don't let the facts get in the way of blaming someone else for something.

Trump’s administration withdrew an Obama-era proposal to require faster brakes on trains carrying highly flammable materials, ended regular rail safety audits of railroads, and mothballed a pending rule requiring freight trains to have at least two crew members. He also placed a veteran of the chemical industry in charge of the Environmental Protection Agency’s chemical safety office, where she made industry-friendly changes to how the agency studied health risks.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/0...egacy-00083885

While we don't know whether these provisions would have prevented this particular train derailment, we do know that there are an average of 1,704 derailments per year and the Trump administration deliberately chose to back-pedal on regulations to address these mishaps. That's why the GOP is now deflecting and blaming Pete Buttigieg.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

That said, it makes more sense to criticize Republicans deliberate deregulation of rail safety systems (track inspections and breaking systems) than it does to blame Buttigieg for serving in a department whose safety regulations were watered down by the previous administration.

In your twisted logic, maybe.

Two problems with your...uh....analysis:
1) The elements of the regs that were repealed by the DOT in 2018 had nothing to do with the incident in Ohio. It's sophistry and media malpractice to make that claim.
2) The specific regulations that were repealed regarding rail safety were pretty specific:

"The sidelined rules would have, among other things, required states to conduct annual inspections of commercial bus operators, railroads to operate trains with at least two crew members, and automakers to equip future cars and light trucks with vehicle-to-vehicle communications to prevent collisions."

"After the comment period closed, DOT said it would repeal a 2015 rule opposed by freight railroads requiring trains that haul highly flammable crude oil be fitted with advanced braking systems that stop all rail cars simultaneously instead of conventional brakes that stop cars one after the other."

When the train derailed in E Palestine, it wasn't carrying crude oil. Even if it has an advanced braking system, there's no evidence such as system would have prevented a train derailment caused by a failed axle.

3. The derailment in Ohio is still in the news, not because of any deregulation of train safety systems, but what caused the rail cars to derail, what the rail cars were carrying, and what toxics they released when they burned.

4. There are existing regulations that would require railcars carrying the type of chemicals that were being transported via rail must be identified with HazMat tags. There's reporting that indicates those regs were not followed.

Your position that it "sense to criticize Republicans' deliberate deregulation of rail safety systems (track inspections and breaking systems)" is only something that your one-track mind would find supportable. There's nothing indicating that either track inspections or braking systems played a role in this case.

Originally Posted by finnbow

Accordingly, what is happening here is that Republicans are once again engaging in misdirection/projection - cynically heaping blame on Buttigieg to distract from the fact that Trump relaxed rail safety regulations aimed at reducing the likelihood of events like East Palestine.

And that's different than what you're doing, how? You and your fellow travelers are attempting to suggest that this incident has something to do with repealed regs that have no bearing on what happened. You need to brush up on the meaning of the word "hypocrite".

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

In your twisted logic, maybe.

Two problems with your...uh....analysis:
1) The elements of the regs that were repealed by the DOT in 2018 had nothing to do with the incident in Ohio...

I didn't say they did.