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[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

What you continue to conveniently overlook is that the laptop story had already been proferred by Guiliani (under investigation at the time for FISA violations with Russia-leaning Ukrainians) and Derkach in Ukraine (a Russian intelligence agent subsequently indicted by the Feds who was under investigation for helping "to orchestrate a wide-ranging plan to meddle in the 2020 presidential campaign, including using Rudolph W. Giuliani to spread their misleading claims about President Biden and tilt the election in Donald J. Trump's favor.").



In other words, the people behind this story were a guy now being disbarred for lying to American courts about the 2020 election and a Russian spy indicted for conspiracy to violate the International Emergency Economic Powers Acts (IEEPA), bank fraud , and money laundering.



Accordingly, this story was viewed with extreme (and deserved) skepticism by everyone (including Fox News and the WSJ) and the only person willing to write an article about the unverified and sketchy allegations for the (slimy) NYPost was a former Hannity staffer (and current Breitbart scribe). And you feel that a private company was under some sort of legal obligation to link to it, particularly after Trump solicited and received Russian help in 2016 (in large part via social media)? You seem to have a profound misunderstanding of the First Amendment and a lot of unwarranted trust in Rudy and his Russian spy buddy.

None of which is relevant to the FBI's "warning" about the story, and the platform's willingness to "punish" those who linked to it or retweeted it. You might not like the story, and you might not like the folks who were pushing the story. They had the "right" to use the social media platforms within the terms or services of those platforms, which they did.

I keep repeating myself here, so for the last time: the FBI had no business meeting with those platforms weekly to assure that certain information was "censored by proxy". That's not the FBI's job. Further, since the posts did not violate the terms of service of those platforms, as those platforms now admit, they had no business restricting content posted by those users, making those users more difficult to find in a search, or suspending or canceling those accounts.

Sure, they may not have specifically violated any laws in doing so, and I suspect a Section 230 violation might be difficult to prove. Section 230, however, doesn't allow for those platforms to censor or restrict content that otherwise conforms to the platforms' terms of service. Clearly, they did that.

[Rajoo]

^^FBI was perhaps ensuring that the elections were not getting manipulated through social media. Besides wasn't the FBI under Bill Barr then who worked for Trump? Lock him up.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

None of which is relevant to the FBI's "warning" about the story, and the platform's willingness to "punish" those who linked to it or retweeted it.

So, you don't think the FBI should have warned social media companies about apparent Russian dirty tricks trying to influence our elections as they did in 2016? Bill Barr's (and Trump's own) DOJ disagreed with you as did every Republican member of the Federal Elections Commission. Take it up with them.

• Twitter acted lawfully when it restricted the distribution of a New York Post article with unverified claims about President Joe Biden’s son, Hunter.
  
• The agency found that Twitter had made a valid decision based on commercial reasons.

Meanwhile, after reviewing all of Twitter's internal files, Matt Taibbi posted "22. Although several sources recalled hearing about a “general” warning from federal law enforcement that summer about possible foreign hacks, there’s no evidence - that I've seen - of any government involvement in the laptop story."

Also, Twitter didn't "punish" anybody. It's remarkable the fact-free nonsense you keep breathlessly spewing. I guess you and your party has nothing better to do that to concoct reasons why Dear Leader lost in 2020. First, it was thousands of dead people voting. Then it was fake Chinese ballots. Then it was Italian satellites and smart thermostats deleting votes. Then it was Dominion Voting Systems and Smartmatic. Now it's Twitter fault. Really fucking pathetic.

[Chicks]

'Dissemination and action': DOJ pursues text messages of MAGA congressman who pushed election lies
https://www.alternet.org/scott-perry-2658963792/

Every single one of these Repuke scumbags (Whell’s heroes) needs to be prosecuted.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Also, Twitter didn't "punish" anybody. It's remarkable the fact-free nonsense you keep breathlessly spewing. I guess you and your party has nothing better to do that to concoct reasons why Dear Leader lost in 2020. First, it was thousands of dead people voting. Then it was fake Chinese ballots. Then it was Italian satellites and smart thermostats deleting votes. Then it was Dominion Voting Systems and Smartmatic. Now it's Twitter fault. Really fucking pathetic.

Anyone have a suggestion for the nominee?

[Chicks]

Russian Trolls Are Using Under-Moderated Right-Wing Sites Like Truth Social to Post Manipulating Content
A new study reveals that Russian groups are found to have a larger impact on conservative platforms than previously thought

https://gizmodo.com/russia-trolls-tr...ler-1849892297

Clearly a couple of our members have been manipulated.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

So, you don't think the FBI should have warned social media companies about apparent Russian dirty tricks trying to influence our elections as they did in 2016?

Not what I said, but that's your spin. A general advisory - fine. Weekly meetings with Social Media platforms? Very questionable, especially considering that it appears those meetings may have been used by the FBI to pass along info it likely knew was false. The social media then using that information as a pretext to hammer a subset of its users who were not posting outside of the platform's terms of service? Also very questionable.

Originally Posted by finnbow

Meanwhile, after reviewing all of Twitter's internal files, Matt Taibbi posted "22. Although several sources recalled hearing about a “general” warning from federal law enforcement that summer about possible foreign hacks, there’s no evidence - that I've seen - of any government involvement in the laptop story."

Yoel Roth specifically stated that he recalled hearing it during those meetings.

Originally Posted by finnbow

Also, Twitter didn't "punish" anybody.

Those whose accounts were suspended, had their post contents search-restricted, or "shadow-banned" would likely disagree with your assessment.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Chicks

'Dissemination and action': DOJ pursues text messages of MAGA congressman who pushed election lies
https://www.alternet.org/scott-perry-2658963792/

Every single one of these Repuke scumbags (Whell’s heroes) needs to be prosecuted.

Originally Posted by Chicks

Russian Trolls Are Using Under-Moderated Right-Wing Sites Like Truth Social to Post Manipulating Content
A new study reveals that Russian groups are found to have a larger impact on conservative platforms than previously thought

https://gizmodo.com/russia-trolls-tr...ler-1849892297

Clearly a couple of our members have been manipulated.

You're getting your news from Alternet, but you claim I'M the one being "manipulated"? Hilarious!

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

You're getting your news from Alternet, but you claim I'M the one being "manipulated"? Hilarious!

Scott Perry is most definitely in the DOJ's sights, whether you like the source of said info or not.

WASHINGTON — The F.B.I. on Tuesday seized the cellphone of Representative Scott Perry, Republican of Pennsylvania and the chairman of the ultraconservative House Freedom Caucus, according to the congressman’s office.

Mr. Perry, who has been issued a subpoena by the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, said three F.B.I. agents seized his phone Tuesday morning while he was traveling with family.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/09/u...phone-fbi.html

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Not what I said, but that's your spin. A general advisory - fine. Weekly meetings with Social Media platforms? Very questionable, especially considering that it appears those meetings may have been used by the FBI to pass along info it likely knew was false. The social media then using that information as a pretext to hammer a subset of its users who were not posting outside of the platform's terms of service? Also very questionable.

Yoel Roth specifically stated that he recalled hearing it during those meetings.

Those whose accounts were suspended, had their post contents search-restricted, or "shadow-banned" would likely disagree with your assessment.

It looks like you've decided to cling to this nothing-burger, somehow hoping it makes your undying devotion to your Dear Leader seem more excusable.

Pro tip: It doesn't.