Trump, the 2024 Candidate

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by finnbow

The Palm Beach Fire Chief should come down on his ass like a ton of bricks for this.

Trump will claim that he had a captive audience.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by finnbow

The Palm Beach Fire Chief should come down on his ass like a ton of bricks for this.

Think of what you're saying. The Palm Beach Fire Chief? On Trump?

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Think of what you're saying. The Palm Beach Fire Chief? On Trump?

I think Trump's Palm Beach neighbors would applaud the Lying Dotard getting his comeuppance.

Seriously though, locking exit doors in a room/gathering like that is, in fact, a big deal. Does the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire ring any bells?

[donquixote99]

Palm Beach Fire Chief is a working stiff, not a member of the rich Palm Beach elite. He will be accustomed to showing deference to the rich, and he heads a force that may be heavily magatized. And details on what doors were actually locked, if any, are a bit murky.

But if people were prevented from freely leaving, that's kidnapping, isn't it?


https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/11/...ng-trump-2024/

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Palm Beach Fire Chief is a working stiff, not a member of the rich Palm Beach elite. He will be accustomed to showing deference to the rich, and he heads a force that may be heavily magatized. And details on what doors were actually locked, if any, are a bit murky.

But if people were prevented from freely leaving, that's kidnapping, isn't it?

https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/11/...ng-trump-2024/

Not to get to far into the weeds, but the Palm Beach Fire Chief is almost certainly the Authority Having Jurisdiction (AHJ) for enforcement of fire codes in his municipality. He has unchallenged authority for the enforcement of NFPA 101, the Life Safety Code, and AHJ's that I have worked with (and I've worked with many) are very zealous about protecting their authority and prerogatives.

In my experience, they're not remotely fearful of rich and influential people. In fact, they enjoy making it quite clear who's boss when it comes to Life Safety Code interpretation and enforcement.

[donquixote99]

Authority and perogatives of an independent government sector regulator, vs the power of corrupt rich people with a 'movement' behind them? What can the Fire Chief do? Fine him 'heavily?' Heavily enough that it would actually hurt Trump?

[bobabode]

The fire dept/code enforcement can red tag the whole property if lard ass wants to really push it. IIRC shit fer brains signed an agreement with the city not to live at Mar a Lardo.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Authority and perogatives of an independent government sector regulator, vs the power of corrupt rich people with a 'movement' behind them? What can the Fire Chief do? Fine him 'heavily?' Heavily enough that it would actually hurt Trump?

In that Mar-A-Lago is a club (as opposed to solely a private residence), he could send in a team of inspectors and shut the place down if code violations posed a danger to the public. Indeed, if this well-publicized infraction did in fact occur, I would bet that the Fire Chief has already spoken to the folks at MAL.

Blocking the means of egress in such a building is a very serious code infraction. In a fire at a chicken processing plant in NC where the means of egress were locked, 25 were killed and 55 injured. Three officials of the plant were charged with manslaughter.

These kind of infractions are considered among the worst in that locking/blocking means of egress is generally perceived by authorities as a deliberate and willful act.

[RickeyM]

I don't think the "security staff" locked any doors did they? I take it that they were just physically blocking people's way out of the room. Not that I'd ever attend one of Dotards events but if someone tried blocking me from leaving... well, they could try.

[finnbow]

So, Trump wants to trash the Constitution because Twitter didn't post Hunter Biden's dick pics (which broke several of Twitter's Terms of Service concerning hacked materials and pornography). In doing so, Trump is also admitting to the Special Counsel that he is (was) willing to trash the Constitution to stay in power. Brilliant! So far, no word from "constitutional conservatives" on Trump's insistence upon terminating the Constitution.