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10-25-2022, 09:45 AM
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Do you mean the Mueller investigation that found no evidence of Russian collusion!??!
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They found no such thing. Indeed he showed coordination between the Trump campaign (Manafort, Gates, Stone) and Russian intelligence. What you're paraphrasing is Bill Barr's mischaracterization of the actual findings. And then he tasked Durham to seal the deal which proved a dismal, embarrassing failure.
Here's a really good wrap-up of l'affaire Durham should you be willing to be confronted by the facts.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022...-was-fake.html
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Durham has spent 3.5 years and millions of dollars to prove that, at least in Washington DC, lying to the FBI is not a crime.
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Having two trials result in unanimous and complete acquittals in a matter of hours proves nothing other than these charges should never have been brought.
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10-25-2022, 10:04 AM
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If you're inferring a defense in any of my posts on this topic, you're trying to insert something that's not there.
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I'm inferring nothing. I took issue with you saying "no one is defending Christian Nationalism," not "I am not defending Christian Nationalism" and then went on to show that your assertion is demonstrably untrue.
As for Christian Nationalism's sway in the Evangelical community, how's this for a prayer (from Michael Flynn's "ReAwaken America" rally with Eric Trump participating)?
“Father God, we come to you in the name of Jesus. We’re asking you to open the eyes of President Trump’s understanding, that he will know the time of divine intervention. He will know how to implement divine intervention. And you will surround him, Father, with none of this deep-state trash, none of this RINO trash. You surround him, people that you pick, with your own mighty hand. In the name of Jesus.”
Here's what the former Trump National Security Advisor and BFF and his Christian Nationalism-loving Evangelical brethren are up to:
Michael Flynn is building a nationwide, grassroots movement that is fusing deranged political ideas with a mangled version of the Christian faith. In April 2021, the “ReAwaken America” tour was launched by Clay Clark with an event in Tulsa, Oklahoma. For the second event, held at the River Church in Tampa, Florida, that June, Flynn signed on as the star attraction. Organizers claim that more than 10,000 people came to the Pentecostal church for a sold-out show. Since then, the “ReAwaken America” Tour has averaged more than a gathering a month. Charisma News, which is aimed at Pentecostals and charismatics, is a sponsor. (Charisma News describes itself this way: “To passionate, Spirit-filled Christians, Charisma News is the most trusted source for credible news and insight from a charismatic perspective.”)...
In November, Flynn told a packed sanctuary at Cornerstone Church in San Antonio, Texas, “If we are going to have one nation under God, which we must, we have to have one religion. One nation under God and one religion under God.” He has described this as “a moment in time where this is good versus evil.”
“Mike Flynn has emerged as a martyr and a mascot for the far-right contingent of the Christian-nationalist movement in the United States,” Samuel Perry, a sociology professor at the University of Oklahoma, a scholar of Christian nationalism, and himself a person of the Christian faith, told Frontline.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...-trump/671852/
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10-25-2022, 10:58 AM
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Methinks our friend doth protest too much
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10-25-2022, 11:04 AM
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Kinda sounds like your average cocktail party in Manhattan or Hollywood. Just substitute the word "Republican" for "Biden".
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As if you'd know, lol.
Which party? The one with Kelsey Grammer, Arnold, Tim Allen, Clint, James Woods, the Jenners, Jon Voight?
Or maybe you mean the one with the Faux "News" staff in Manhattan?
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10-25-2022, 11:13 AM
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Paul Krugman, what to tool.
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Adorable how you seem to think you know more about economics than one of the world's leading economists, with the awards to prove it. What have you ever done in comparison (besides making egregious grammatical errors)?
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10-25-2022, 11:22 AM
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Paul Krugman, what to tool.
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I guess you prefer Trump's Chief Economic Advisor, Larry Kudlow, who never studied economics (he majored in history at Univ. of Rochester).
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10-25-2022, 11:26 AM
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I guess you prefer Trump's Chief Economic Advisor, Larry Kudlow, who never studied economics (he majored in history at Univ. of Rochester).
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That Time Fox Business’ Larry Kudlow Touted Liz Truss’ ‘Terrific’ Economic Plan, Compared It to Kevin McCarthy’s
https://www.yahoo.com/video/time-fox...204414777.html
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“The U.S. midterm elections cavalry arrived early in London. What do I mean by that?” Kudlow says in the Fox Business clip. “Well, the new British prime minister, Liz Truss, has laid out a terrific supply-side economic growth plan which looks a lot like the basic thrust of Kevin McCarthy’s Commitment to America plan.”
Kudlow continues, heaping praise on Truss for “slashing tax rates and deregulating energy.”
“I just love it,” Kudlow beamed before suggesting that the “liberal business media” was wrong in “trashing her plan.” At the end of the clip (shared by MeidasTouch), Kudlow says, “Truss has it exactly right.”
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Yeah, Whell's kind of "expert", lol.
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10-25-2022, 01:24 PM
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Adorable how you seem to think you know more about economics than one of the world's leading economists, with the awards to prove it. What have you ever done in comparison (besides making egregious grammatical errors)? 
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Way back when Trumps tax cuts were kicking in, Krugman was predicting they would cause inflation. Never happened.
Years later, mid-COVID, I'm having dinner with my wife, and we're talking about the government payout we just received. I told my wife that the government pumping billions into the economy, plus the Fed printing money, plus the supply issues that stemmed from COVID, we're going to have all the conditions for some nasty inflation.
The inflation that Krugman says surprised him.
Krugman....what a tool.
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10-25-2022, 01:28 PM
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I'm inferring nothing. I took issue with you saying "no one is defending Christian Nationalism," not "I am not defending Christian Nationalism" and then went on to show that your assertion is demonstrably untrue.
As for Christian Nationalism's sway in the Evangelical community, how's this for a prayer (from Michael Flynn's "ReAwaken America" rally with Eric Trump participating)?
“Father God, we come to you in the name of Jesus. We’re asking you to open the eyes of President Trump’s understanding, that he will know the time of divine intervention. He will know how to implement divine intervention. And you will surround him, Father, with none of this deep-state trash, none of this RINO trash. You surround him, people that you pick, with your own mighty hand. In the name of Jesus.”
Here's what the former Trump National Security Advisor and BFF and his Christian Nationalism-loving Evangelical brethren are up to:
Michael Flynn is building a nationwide, grassroots movement that is fusing deranged political ideas with a mangled version of the Christian faith. In April 2021, the “ReAwaken America” tour was launched by Clay Clark with an event in Tulsa, Oklahoma. For the second event, held at the River Church in Tampa, Florida, that June, Flynn signed on as the star attraction. Organizers claim that more than 10,000 people came to the Pentecostal church for a sold-out show. Since then, the “ReAwaken America” Tour has averaged more than a gathering a month. Charisma News, which is aimed at Pentecostals and charismatics, is a sponsor. (Charisma News describes itself this way: “To passionate, Spirit-filled Christians, Charisma News is the most trusted source for credible news and insight from a charismatic perspective.”)...
In November, Flynn told a packed sanctuary at Cornerstone Church in San Antonio, Texas, “If we are going to have one nation under God, which we must, we have to have one religion. One nation under God and one religion under God.” He has described this as “a moment in time where this is good versus evil.”
“Mike Flynn has emerged as a martyr and a mascot for the far-right contingent of the Christian-nationalist movement in the United States,” Samuel Perry, a sociology professor at the University of Oklahoma, a scholar of Christian nationalism, and himself a person of the Christian faith, told Frontline.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...-trump/671852/
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I may have missed it, but I don't recall that Flynn is running for anything. I'm thinking he is because you're sounding like you fear him as the anti Christ.
Did you check under the bed last night for any scary evangelists?
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10-25-2022, 02:17 PM
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I will, of course, not live long enough to see it completely eradicated, but it appears the future trend isn't looking good for any of the organized religions here in the US. Hopefully there WILL come a time when allegiance to this dogma or that has no place in the decision making of how our country runs.....
https://news.gallup.com/poll/341963/...irst-time.aspx
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