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Old 09-15-2022, 08:08 AM
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Lies, and irrational hubris, for sure.

The 'coalition' forces decimated Iraq, on the other hand, with Saddam Husain swinging from a noose.

That was the goal; re-establish a balance of power in the region, and weaken Iraq completely. And spread some wealth among friends.
That was the first phase of the Iraq war. The subsequent phases didn't work out so well. The only winner of the Iraq War was Iran.
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Lies, and irrational hubris, for sure.

The 'coalition' forces decimated Iraq, on the other hand, with Saddam Husain swinging from a noose.

That was the goal; re-establish a balance of power in the region, and weaken Iraq completely. And spread some wealth among friends.
I don't think the goals were as rational as 'wanting power rebalanced.' Iraq, intact, was a nice counterbalance to Iran. It was PNACs irrational quest to bring back old-time imperialism. The 'balance of power' was going to be big US forces based in Iraq perpetually. And we'd steal the oil.
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Fully-Fledged Revolt' Against Putin is near,
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I don't think the goals were as rational as 'wanting power rebalanced.' Iraq, intact, was a nice counterbalance to Iran. It was PNACs irrational quest to bring back old-time imperialism. The 'balance of power' was going to be big US forces based in Iraq perpetually. And we'd steal the oil.
Kuwait benefitted tremendously, and actually greeted the USA as liberators (with roses even).

The USA now has military bases all over the Middle East that didn't exist prior to the war with Iraq. All I'm saying is that they seemed to have achieved their objectives.

https://countercurrents.org/2022/05/...r-and-freedom/

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Old 09-15-2022, 03:11 PM
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Kuwait benefitted tremendously, and actually greeted the USA as liberators (with roses even).

The USA now has military bases all over the Middle East that didn't exist prior to the war with Iraq. All I'm saying is that they seemed to have achieved their objectives.

https://countercurrents.org/2022/05/...r-and-freedom/

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I don't either, but I recognize it as pro-Putin apologetics, a whataboutery defense. Says US worse based on PNAC stuff. PNAC awful, but that doesn't make Putin any good.
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Kuwait benefitted tremendously, and actually greeted the USA as liberators (with roses even).

The USA now has military bases all over the Middle East that didn't exist prior to the war with Iraq. All I'm saying is that they seemed to have achieved their objectives.

https://countercurrents.org/2022/05/...r-and-freedom/

(I don't know the background of this source)

Kuwait was liberated in the first Gulf War. It was Dubya's war 10 years later that was the shitshow.


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Kuwait was liberated in the first Gulf War. It was Dubya’s war 10 years later that was the shitshow.
I'm just curious; are you aware that every time you type 'Dubya' in the possessive form (dubya's) instead of an apostrophe, I see the HTML code Dubya’s.

It's sort of intriguing; is it done as a joke ?

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I'm just curious; are you aware that every time you type 'Dubya' in the possessive form (dubya's) instead of an apostrophe, I see the HTML code Dubya’s.

It's sort of intriguing; is it done as a joke ?

OOOh, it's tapatalk I guess.
It happens on Tapatalk for iPhone. A pain in the ass. I fixed it. Thanks.
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Ukraine said Thursday that it had intercepted two conversations involving Russian soldiers fighting in Ukraine.
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Putin's new Ukraine problem: Even the war's biggest supporters are growing dissatisfied
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