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Old 08-19-2022, 05:18 PM
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She's a RINO because the party left conservative Replubicans for fealty to an incompetent unfit dictatorial demagogue as the Trump party. She hasn't changed, nor those like her left holding the Conservative Replublican standard. The magamorons richly deserve their standard bearer as everything he truly is.
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Old 08-20-2022, 09:44 AM
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Aside from all the cult politics and other distractions, I just don't think voters would vote a woman into the office of president. I don't think we are there yet.
I'm there Barbara. Gender does not factor into who I vote for.
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Old 08-20-2022, 09:47 AM
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It may come down to Liz as the anti-Trump traditional Conservative Republican VS a DeSatantis Trump fringe radical without Trump's baggage, the Con's vs the conn'ed.
(The typo is a Spell check Freudian slip, and I'm leaving it as-is)
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Old 08-20-2022, 09:57 AM
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I admire Liz Cheney for her dedication to the Constitution and the rule of law.

While I don't agree with her ideology, I believe she would be a good President.
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Old 08-20-2022, 10:10 AM
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I trust if Liz does make a try for the presidency, she will have sense to go third party from the get-go, and skip getting clobbered in the Republican primaries first.
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Old 08-20-2022, 11:36 AM
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I admire Liz Cheney for her dedication to the Constitution and the rule of law.

While I don't agree with her ideology, I believe she would be a good President.
I will disagree. She voted with/for trump 93% in the House and raised money for his re-election. Perhaps the insurrection rubbed her the wrong way or she has had an awakening, but if she is a representative of the GOP, she will bring all their baggage to the table. And the GOP is controlled by the Federalist Society.

If she runs as an independent, she will siphon a lot of the women and idealist votes.
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I will disagree. She voted with/for trump 93% in the House and raised money for his re-election. Perhaps the insurrection rubbed her the wrong way or she has had an awakening, but if she is a representative of the GOP, she will bring all their baggage to the table. And the GOP is controlled by the Federalist Society.

If she runs as an independent, she will siphon a lot of the women and idealist votes.
Perhaps not so much, if constantly reminded of her support of regressive policies.
Nonetheless, she is at least in normal range of rationality compared to the Trumpists.
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I don't trust the GOP and their dirty tricks, in fact less now with the constant Social Media buzz.

Let's not forget, Kerry getting swift boated for looking French, a veteran who had fought for this country. Hillary got Benghazied for being married to a Clinton.

They will spin and brand Liz Cheney as a lifelong Soshialist. I would not put it past them to photo-shop a picture of her sitting on Obama's lap.

As long as Trump gets the headlines and Liz lives in their echo chamber, they will paint Trump as the great savior.
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Does Pence figure into this as another not-Trump/ not-Dem' alternative candidate to the Trumpist KKKlandidates?
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Old 08-21-2022, 11:09 AM
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I will disagree. She voted with/for trump 93% in the House and raised money for his re-election. Perhaps the insurrection rubbed her the wrong way or she has had an awakening, but if she is a representative of the GOP, she will bring all their baggage to the table. And the GOP is controlled by the Federalist Society.

If she runs as an independent, she will siphon a lot of the women and idealist votes.
That 93% Cheney supported represents the conservative Republican agenda which does not violate the Constitution or the law. While I disagree with the conservative Republican agenda I recognize it as a legitimate political philosophy.
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