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[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

So, every court decision that doesn't go the Lying Dotard's way is due to liberal bias?

Building a straw man with your very first sentence makes the 3 paragraphs that follow irrelevant.

No, I was calling out the hypocrisy of citing a CNN article about CREW's lawsuit - this lawsuit not others - two water-carriers for the left, while complaining that "wingnut media are spreading lies" for the right. You can make this about something its not if you want to, and I'd understand your desire to deflect in this matter.

By the way, if Barr is a "liar", was he also lying when he told Cheney's Star Chamber that he called "bullshit" on Trump's election claims?

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Building a straw man with your very first sentence makes the 3 paragraphs that follow irrelevant.

Straw man, my ass. You do it every single time something comes down against your Dear Leader and his minions. In your response, you tried to discredit the findings of a District Court and an Appellate Court by claiming bias of all the judges involved, the media who reported it, and the plaintiff in the (successful) lawsuit, notwithstanding the fact that the court's decision reflected what Mueller said long ago about Barr's (obvious) mischaracterization of his report.

You lead with this nonsense because you're fundamentally incapable of admitting the blatant lawlessness, corruption and dishonesty of the Trump administration. So, Barr misleads Congress, the courts and the public by saying that he exercised due diligence in deliberating whether Mueller's findings justified prosecution of Trump (reminder: Mueller found 4 slam-dunk instances of obstruction of justice that hindered his ability to fully investigate "collusion"), but it's only because of omnipresent bias that Barr's dishonesty has been revealed. In your perfect world of unbiased courts, media and plaintiffs, revelations about Trump administration corruption, malfeasance and dishonesty would never see the light of day (and therefore never occurred).

The upshot of your oft-cited whiny excuse about bias in media and the judiciary is "The truth has a liberal bias." On this point, we agree (at least for the past couple of decades).

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Here you are quoting article from Dem water-carrying news outlet, about the actions of whack-job David Brock's group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW).

David Brock was not a founder of CREW and hasn't been associated with CREW for 5 years. CREW was founded as a counterbalance to the conservative Judicial Watch, a group whose founder Larry Klayman is indeed a whack-job who was banned from practicing law before courts in California and New York and was censured by both the DC and Florida Bar, and is now headed by another incompetent whack job, Tom Fitton, an English major with no legal background.

In contrast, CREW's President Noah Bookbinder served as Director of the Office of Legislative and Public Affairs at the US Sentencing Commission. Before that, he served as Chief Counsel for Criminal Justice for the Senate Judiciary Committee. Prior to that, he worked as a Trial Attorney for the DOJ’s Public Integrity Section. He has also taught the prosecution of public corruption at George Washington Univ and Howard Univ Law Schools. He graduated from Yale University and Stanford Law School and served as a law clerk to United States District Judge Douglas Woodlock.

You never seem to allow facts to get in the way of a good argument.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

Whatabout-watabout-whatabout 3-2-1

Politics 101.
Deny, Deceive, Deflect.
Whell I am sure aced it

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by finnbow

You never seem to allow facts to get in the way of a good argument.

Or a bad one. Good, bad, macht nichts.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

By the way, if Barr is a "liar", was he also lying when he told Cheney's Star Chamber that he called "bullshit" on Trump's election claims?

The fact that he lied to cover for Trump after the Mueller report does not invalidate the fact that he told the truth about Trump's election claims to cover his own ass. As for Barr lying to cover for Trump in the Russia probe, I'll leave it to 2 different federal judges to make their own assertions in that regard (beyond the similar but weightier opinions of the 3 appellate court judges yesterday saying much the same thing):

March 6, 2020
Barr displayed a "lack of candor" to the Court. Barr presented a "distorted" and "misleading" account of Mueller's findings.
--- U.S. District Court Judge Reggie Walton

May 5, 2021
Attorney General William Barr was "disingenuous" about the process behind his decision to issue a memo clearing then-President Trump on obstruction of justice charges.
--- U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson

Translation from legalese to plain English - "Mr. Barr, you're a fucking liar."

And now with Appellate Court decision, his mendacity seems to have caught up with him. IMO, he should be prosecuted for it (lying to both the Congress and the courts), but he likely won't. DOJ will likely exercise the prosecutorial discretion that conservatives claim to hate (though they seem to want DOJ not to investigate any of Trump's myriad crimes).

[finnbow]

Chris Stirewalt was the Political Director at Fox News who got fired for being the first to accurately call the Arizona vote (and pissing Trump off in the process). In his new book, he accuses Fox of inciting “black-helicopter-level paranoia and hatred... Had viewers been given a more accurate understanding of the race over time, Trump’s loss would have been seen as a likely outcome."

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/19/u...-fox-news.html

[Chicks]

Republican scare tactics about IRS funding are becoming increasingly dangerous
This isn’t just misinformation — this is information that is designed to radicalize.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinio...cary-rcna44035

Whell, of course, believes every word.

[Chicks]

Legal expert explains why Faux “News” will probably settle the infamous Dominion lawsuit

https://www.rawstory.com/fox-dominio...ation-lawsuit/

“One suspects that there would be a lot of pressure on the Fox defendant to settle the case short of trial," Vance explained. "Although a settlement could be painful, going to trial almost guarantees a broader exposure of these sorts of Kraken-lawyer-fever-dreams that are being spread here."

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Chicks

Legal expert explains why Faux “News” will probably settle the infamous Dominion lawsuit

https://www.rawstory.com/fox-dominio...ation-lawsuit/

“One suspects that there would be a lot of pressure on the Fox defendant to settle the case short of trial," Vance explained. "Although a settlement could be painful, going to trial almost guarantees a broader exposure of these sorts of Kraken-lawyer-fever-dreams that are being spread here."

It's pretty clear that Fox may want to settle, but it is less clear that Dominion wants to. They may be pissed enough to try to drive a stake through the hearts of Fox, OANN, NewsMax and PillowGuy.
https://www.newsweek.com/dominion-vo...ection-1660457

If these wingnut news outlet go belly up, Whell will be forced to rely on Breitbart, InfoWars and the Gateway Pundit for a "news" fix that confirms his priors.