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Old 08-18-2022, 09:35 AM
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The cognitive dissonance echoing through your grey matter must be deafening.
Could you please speak up? I can't hear you.
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Old 08-18-2022, 09:43 AM
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Could you please speak up? I can't hear you.
If you haven't yet caught on, I give no quarter to Trump apologists.
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Old 08-18-2022, 09:50 AM
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Forget it Whell. You have spent years and years fucking with us for the fun of it. But now, when the Repubs are trying to wreck democracy and establish authoritarian rule, fun-time is over. You have to pick a side. Republican or constitution? Can't be for both these days.
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Old 08-18-2022, 09:59 AM
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(trollin trollin trollin)
While trying to come across as a well informed orator.

This is why in courts, only yes or no answers are asked of most witnesses. Imagine Whell on the witness stand.
No one will show up after recess except Whell.
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Old 08-18-2022, 11:32 AM
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By the way, the fascists did not make the the trains run on time, or otherwise provide efficient management. What they did was lie in the media about it, and allow no contradiction. Much easier.
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Old 08-18-2022, 01:30 PM
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electric vehicles ...... no one bothered to ask what I thought. Even a day or more later no one has asked......
Hi Whell, , OK, so I'll ask, what do you think of electric vehicles?



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......I appreciate it when the trains run on time. Sieg Heil!
Then you'd best stay the Hell outta Boston, the entire Orange and parts of the Green lines will be down for a solid month...
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Old 08-18-2022, 02:02 PM
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Hi Whell, , OK, so I'll ask, what do you think of electric vehicles?
Glad you asked!

I have been all for electric vehicles....when such vehicles are able to be supported by market conditions. That's not really where we are today.

Electric vehicles are subsidized through manufacturer incentives and tax credits for the purchaser. I'm not in favor of these incentives: it simply shifts costs from the manufacturer to the taxpayer, then the taxpayer is hit again to pay for the subsidized purchase. When the subsidies ended - saw this first hand during the Obama years - companies who started up based on the promise of incentives went belly-up when those incentives were not paid out.

I would be in favor of subsidies for public or private universities to conduct research on battery technology or materials technology that could then be adapted for use electric vehicle use.

But we better be damned careful what we do with any tech advancements or developments paid for with taxpayer dollars, so we can stay away from idiotic bureaucratic blunders like THIS.

I will say that I finally got to ride in a Tesla when I was down in Tempe last week. The Uber driver that took me back to the airport had a Tesla. It was a damned impressive car.
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Old 08-18-2022, 02:03 PM
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If you haven't yet caught on, I give no quarter to Trump apologists.
Ok. If I see one, I'll let them know.
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Old 08-18-2022, 02:12 PM
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Glad you asked!

I have been all for electric vehicles....when such vehicles are able to be supported by market conditions. That's not really where we are today.

Electric vehicles are subsidized through manufacturer incentives and tax credits for the purchaser. I'm not in favor of these incentives: it simply shifts costs from the manufacturer to the taxpayer, then the taxpayer is hit again to pay for the subsidized purchase. When the subsidies ended - saw this first hand during the Obama years - companies who started up based on the promise of incentives went belly-up when those incentives were not paid out.

I would be in favor of subsidies for public or private universities to conduct research on battery technology or materials technology that could then be adapted for use electric vehicle use.

But we better be damned careful what we do with any tech advancements or developments paid for with taxpayer dollars, so we can stay away from idiotic bureaucratic blunders like THIS.

I will say that I finally got to ride in a Tesla when I was down in Tempe last week. The Uber driver that took me back to the airport had a Tesla. It was a damned impressive car.
Hi Whell, on this we agree, as much as I also like the idea of pure electric vehicles, I am not for the tax subsidies, the free market alone should be the determiner of whether they are truly ready for mass market acceptance. If any of my three gas powered vehicles manages to die before I do, I will buy an EV , whether my fellow taxpayers foot part of the bill or not. In fact, I'll go as far as to wonder; if someone wouldn't buy one unless it was subsidized, how committed are they to the concept in the first place
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Old 08-18-2022, 02:13 PM
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Ok. If I see one, I'll let them know.
Look in your bathroom mirror.

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