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07-15-2022, 09:24 AM
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When 'Pro-Life' Becomes 'Pro-Censorship'
Antiabortion activists are the new Anthony Comstocks.
https://reason.com/2022/07/11/when-p...ro-censorship/
The libertarians are often wrong, but sometimes they get it.
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07-15-2022, 05:22 PM
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I would have thought, especially with the ramped-up sensitivities on this issue, that a comedian couldn't get away with making jokes about the subject of abortion. This guy does it, and it's actually well done and funny as hell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhWlzOrsSUU
Just sharing this to show at least one example that levity in discourse - not pointed at any individual or group in particular - is still possible.
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You're sick if you think a woman's right to autonomy is a fucking laughing matter, Mike. Not surprised one bit that you would get a tingle down your leg though.
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07-16-2022, 10:44 AM
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Here are a couple of comments from anti-abortion activists that is simply mind boggling, meaning I don't have a clue as to what they are saying.
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In a House hearing on Capitol Hill this week, an anti-abortion rights advocate said ending a pregnancy isn't an abortion when it involves a 10-year-old rape victim.
The comment stunned the Democratic lawmaker questioning her.
The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists defines abortion as a "medical intervention provided to individuals who need to end the medical condition of pregnancy."
"Wait, it would not be an abortion?" said Rep. Eric Swalwell, D-Calif.
Catherine Glenn Foster, head of the anti-abortion group Americans United for Life, told Swalwell she didn't think it was.
"If a 10-year-old with her parents made the decision not to have a baby that was a result of a rape, if a 10-year-old became pregnant as a result of rape, and it was threatening her life then that's not an abortion," Foster told the House Judiciary Committee on Thursday.
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Here there is only one parent and the rapist seems to be the said parent's live in BF.
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Around the same time as Foster's testimony, the top lawyer for the National Right to Life Committee, had a decidedly different take.
In a phone interview with Politico, James Bopp said the girl should have been forced to carry the pregnancy to term under model legislation he wrote last June as NRLC's general counsel. That legislation is being used by states to adopt abortion restrictions.
"She would have had the baby, and as many women who have had babies as a result of rape, we would hope that she would understand the reason and ultimately the benefit of having the child," Bopp is quoted as saying.
Bopp did not respond to requests for an interview.
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....."we would hope that she would understand the reason and ultimately the benefit of having the child".
So what is the benefit of carrying an unwanted child to term, especially by a 10yr old?
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/case...ry?id=86814201
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07-16-2022, 12:01 PM
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No words, SMH.
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07-17-2022, 11:06 AM
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You're sick if you think a woman's right to autonomy is a fucking laughing matter, Mike. Not surprised one bit that you would get a tingle down your leg though.
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Well, that's a very interesting take from someone who obviously didn't watch the comic's bit in the link I posted. If you did watch it, you'd realize that you had no basis for your comment above. Why? Because the comic poked fun at both sides.
Further, guess which part I laughed at the hardest? It came right at the end, and without giving too much away to someone who, unlike you, might actually decide to watch it, the comic poked fun at the pro-life viewpoint. It was funny, and I laughed.
Some of us can hold points of view, Bob, and can still laugh when someone used good nature and good humor to poke fun at those points of view. Might be a teachable moment here, Bob.
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07-17-2022, 11:11 AM
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It's true, Whell, tighter immigration laws could have kept that particular perpetrator out of the country and away from that ten year old girl.
But, that fact does not take away from the fact that there will be another person, of any age, raped and possibly impregnated again.....and again.......and again. There are legal citizens in the United States that are rapists and they will continue to be no matter what we do with our immigration laws.
What we need to protect people from rape and a resulting pregnancy is not better immigration laws, but, rather, laws that hold the rapist accountable and laws that allow a person to terminate a pregnancy caused by rape.
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100% agree with you on this.
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07-17-2022, 04:04 PM
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Well, that's a very interesting take from someone who obviously didn't watch the comic's bit in the link I posted. If you did watch it, you'd realize that you had no basis for your comment above. Why? Because the comic poked fun at both sides.
Further, guess which part I laughed at the hardest? It came right at the end, and without giving too much away to someone who, unlike you, might actually decide to watch it, the comic poked fun at the pro-life viewpoint. It was funny, and I laughed.
Some of us can hold points of view, Bob, and can still laugh when someone used good nature and good humor to poke fun at those points of view. Might be a teachable moment here, Bob.
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Here you go Mike. Think this is a laughing matter? Think this is a "teachable moment?
"A woman in Wisconsin was left to bleed for more than 10 days after suffering an incomplete miscarriage as doctors in the state struggle to navigate abortion laws in a post-Roe America.
Carley Zeal, an OB/GYN in southern Wisconsin and fellow with Physicians for Reproductive Health, told The Washington Post that the unidentified woman was going through a miscarriage and needed to have the fetal tissue removed from her uterus."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...b7088e5f2fe77a
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07-17-2022, 04:34 PM
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Here you go Mike. Think this is a laughing matter? Think this is a "teachable moment?
"A woman in Wisconsin was left to bleed for more than 10 days after suffering an incomplete miscarriage as doctors in the state struggle to navigate abortion laws in a post-Roe America.
Carley Zeal, an OB/GYN in southern Wisconsin and fellow with Physicians for Reproductive Health, told The Washington Post that the unidentified woman was going through a miscarriage and needed to have the fetal tissue removed from her."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...b7088e5f2fe77a
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Now you're going from mis-characterizing my original post - its still obvious you didn't bother to click the link and listen to the bit - to false equivalence. Sorry, not playing this game with you. You ought to know better than to be this disingenuous.
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07-17-2022, 05:05 PM
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07-18-2022, 07:22 AM
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It's the GOP way.
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