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02-15-2022, 11:43 AM
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The Banderites were Ukranian Nazis. Is everyone shocked, shocked to learn there were Ukranian Nazis? The are some still around even? Well there are some Nazis around here too, and TC likes them....
Isn't trotting these old bad guys out utterly obvious propaganda tarbrush treatment of the Ukranians, even to you?
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02-15-2022, 11:57 AM
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BS again. Carlson is now Fox's primary mouthpiece for illiberal democracy, the animating force behind Trumpism. He's an outspoken fan of Hungary's Orban as is the base of the GOP, as evidenced by CPAC choosing Budapest to host their next annual conference.
To the extent that Democrats listen to him (or listened to Limbaugh), I think it's mostly to see what kind of ridiculous lies that the GOP base is being fed (and believes). That's why I occasionally tune in. I can only say that his dedicated fans must love being lied to.
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Carlson's views on Syria and Ukraine are far...far away from any presenter on Fox.
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02-15-2022, 12:07 PM
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Fucker's only purpose is to provoke faux "outrage" in his idiotic viewers, while making $millions off their ignorance. He learned well from that cigar-chomping old bloviator on the radio, who is, thankfully, still very much dead.
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02-15-2022, 12:16 PM
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Not really. Fukiyama's theory was that liberal democracy would ultimately lead to the end of despotic regimes through evolution, not that liberal democracies would overthrow despotic regimes through force of arms.
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His theory appears to be wrong given what has been going on since the USSR's demise.
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02-15-2022, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
The Banderites were Ukranian Nazis. Is everyone shocked, shocked to learn there were Ukranian Nazis? The are some still around even? Well there are some Nazis around here too, and TC likes them....
Isn't trotting these old bad guys out utterly obvious propaganda tarbrush treatment of the Ukranians, even to you?
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As shocked as when I heard there was gambling going on at Rick's.
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02-15-2022, 12:23 PM
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His theory appears to be wrong given what has been going on since the USSR's demise.
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Fukiyama will be an obscure footnote in history, which has continued.
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02-15-2022, 12:27 PM
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as shocked as when i heard there was gambling going on at rick's. 
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02-15-2022, 12:32 PM
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The Banderites were Ukranian Nazis. Is everyone shocked, shocked to learn there were Ukranian Nazis? The are some still around even? Well there are some Nazis around here too, and TC likes them....
Isn't trotting these old bad guys out utterly obvious propaganda tarbrush treatment of the Ukranians, even to you?
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They are forceful constraints on any of Ukraine's governments.
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02-15-2022, 12:32 PM
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Fukiyama will be an obscure footnote in history, which has continued.
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The infinite moment.
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02-15-2022, 12:41 PM
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They are forceful constraints on any of Ukraine's governments.
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When the Germans invaded, the Ukrainians welcomed them as liberators. The returning Red Army wasn't a welcomed site, but most Ukrainians were glad to see the Germans go.
The Ukranians remain stuck in the middle.
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