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Old 02-02-2022, 07:26 PM
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Trump is neither strong nor crazy. He's manipulative and evil.

I'll take Sleepy Joe. In fact, he's much more preferable.
DT was obviously not a strong leader, but is clearly crazy.

Biden too is not a strong leader, but preferable to Donald Trump.
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Old 02-02-2022, 08:22 PM
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DT is manipulative and evil; a devil among devils.

He is not crazy, although I can see how he would appear that way to some people.

IMHO, he is a very strong leader over his cult following. If Mike Pence hadn't broke with him, his coup attempt might have actually succeeded.

Many people viewed Churchill as evil; https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29701767

Teddy wasn't exactly a peach, either.

LBJ is said to have left behind a 'body count', although the number is smaller than the Clinton 'body count'.

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Old 02-03-2022, 12:57 AM
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DT is manipulative and evil; a devil among devils.

He is not crazy, although I can see how he would appear that way to some people.

IMHO, he is a very strong leader over his cult following. If Mike Pence hadn't broke with him, his coup attempt might have actually succeeded.

Many people viewed Churchill as evil; https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29701767

Teddy wasn't exactly a peach, either.

LBJ is said to have left behind a 'body count', although the number is smaller than the Clinton 'body count'.
Churchill was just anti India's independence. India was the jewel in the British crown.
He was totally opposed to giving up that jewel. This gave a hollow ring to his famous speeches.
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Old 02-03-2022, 08:24 AM
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I think that because Biden isn't a strong leader, a fighter, it will give rise to a Democratic presidential nominee who is. He or she will be branded as a radical by the Reich and they will embrace it saying that's what's needed to combat the right-wing extremists.
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Old 02-03-2022, 11:13 AM
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I think that because Biden isn't a strong leader, a fighter, it will give rise to a Democratic presidential nominee who is. He or she will be branded as a radical by the Reich and they will embrace it saying that's what's needed to combat the right-wing extremists.
The power that is which controls both parties do not really like strong leaders, fighters. It is very suspicious of such leaders. It often uses the media to counter them early and later employs more shenanigans.

If they do survive the process, what evolves is a water version...giving rise to the "sold out" refrain.
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Old 02-03-2022, 03:07 PM
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Well the GOP certainly seems to like tRump, or at least what he brings them. Right now he's in control and they dare not cross him. Whether he's a strong leader or not doesn't matter. To the cult he appears strong.
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Old 02-03-2022, 04:12 PM
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Well the GOP certainly seems to like tRump, or at least what he brings them. Right now he's in control and they dare not cross him. Whether he's a strong leader or not doesn't matter. To the cult he appears strong.
Trump was good for the media. They gave him a huge platform essentially because his odd ball behavior attracted a lot of viewers and because they did not give him much of a chance against big names like Bush and Clinton.

The GOP big wigs fear him because he can get them primared. I think the cult sees him more in terms of not being afraid to voice loudly their issues.
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Old 02-04-2022, 08:51 AM
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Trump was good for the media. They gave him a huge platform essentially because his odd ball behavior attracted a lot of viewers and because they did not give him much of a chance against big names like Bush and Clinton.

The GOP big wigs fear him because he can get them primared. I think the cult sees him more in terms of not being afraid to voice loudly their issues.
The GOP fears what tRump can do to them but they love how he's motivated and coalesced their base under their banner. They, the GOP leaders, are all aboard the tRump train and will be so as long as it benefits them. The GOP wants someone in the image of a strong leader figuring that will give them followers. The Dems were desperate for someone who Repubs and moderates would for against tRump.
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Old 02-04-2022, 10:09 AM
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Trump was good for the media. They gave him a huge platform essentially because his odd ball behavior attracted a lot of viewers and because they did not give him much of a chance against big names like Bush and Clinton.

The GOP big wigs fear him because he can get them primared. I think the cult sees him more in terms of not being afraid to voice loudly their issues.
I recall the Trump/Media hate/love $$$ affair beginning with the Bonwit Teller teardown. Trump and Media have done well for each other. Birds of a feather?

Trump's a big angry cat and the GOP is his ball of string.
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Old 02-04-2022, 10:18 AM
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An article by one Nahal Toosi:
The Restraint Crowd Facepalms Over Biden's Ukraine Threats.


Despite its broad scope missing from the article is any reference to the effect of influencers who are connected to the MIC.

https://politico.com/news/2022/02/02...reats-00004655
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