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12-07-2021, 03:37 PM
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For some reason I just was reminded, one of my brothers talking about being in Japan in the eighties. Said the girl he was seeing over there asked him why the U.S. started the war with them?
So it seems this country is not the only one having difficulties with the telling of the past.
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The USA systematically provoked Japan into committing an overt act of war against the USA in order to sway public opinion about entering WW2.
It's a fact. Endorsed by FDR, Henry Stimson the then Secretary of War, and written by a Naval Intelligence officer named Arthur McCollum.
Where and when wars start are always matters of opinion, surrounded by propaganda.
Believe what you want. Your brother's GF wasn't necessarily wrong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCollum_memo
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12-07-2021, 04:23 PM
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OK.The fuel and steel boycotts were coercive, but they weren't war
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12-07-2021, 05:17 PM
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The USA systematically provoked Japan into committing an overt act of war against the USA in order to sway public opinion about entering WW2.
It's a fact. Endorsed by FDR, Henry Stimson the then Secretary of War, and written by a Naval Intelligence officer named Arthur McCollum.
Where and when wars start are always matters of opinion, surrounded by propaganda.
Believe what you want. Your brother's GF wasn't necessarily wrong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCollum_memo
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The girl in question knew nothing about Pearl Harbor.
Also the US sanctions were due to Japans invasions into China, Korea, Manchuria, ........
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12-07-2021, 06:40 PM
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He's seeking a change of venue, now.
I like to see him work at Fredrick Douglass High in Baltimore for about four years. He could exercise his First Amendment rights there, keep his same message, and make a video log account of it.
They could make a reality TV series out of it.
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12-07-2021, 07:26 PM
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Seems that books not bullets are the real threat.
From an opinion piece in the Miami Herald:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/one-more-...210957994.html
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We live in a world where students huddle under their desks in active-shooter drills, but conservatives are concerned that learning about race might make them uncomfortable. A world where children have PTSD from seeing friends slaughtered, but conservatives fear that reading about sex might expose them to things they’re not yet ready for. A world where kids go to school with bulletproof backpacks, but conservatives think books have gotten way out of hand.
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To be sure, you can't MAGA if you let little things like history and knowledge get in the way.
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12-07-2021, 10:06 PM
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Great words.
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12-08-2021, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Oerets
The girl in question knew nothing about Pearl Harbor.
Also the US sanctions were due to Japans invasions into China, Korea, Manchuria, ........
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Exactly.
Unless one knows the history of the horrific genocidal expansion of the Japanese empire in the 20th century you cannot understand the United States sanctions against Japan that Japan used as justification for the attack on Pearl Harbor.
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12-08-2021, 02:07 PM
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Critical Race Theory, From The WP
'A dog whistle and a lie': Black parents on the critical race theory debate
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One of the things that LeNoir and other parents interviewed for this story are frustrated by is a sometimes deliberate misunderstanding of CRT, the study of how racism is a systemic part of the societal framework. It is mostly taught in graduate and law school.
"I had never heard of it because we don't teach it in K-12," says Woodbridge, Va., high school teacher and mother Tracey Hairston, 51. "I know for sure that in Virginia it isn't taught."
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... but that didn't stop the Repubs in the last gubernatorial race from blowing that dog whistle loud and long.
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12-08-2021, 02:32 PM
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Sure, they don't teach critical race theory in secondary schools, but they do teach about lynchings as early as 4th grade. It was kind of a lot for my daughter to deal with, along with the Holocaust stuff that was also presented.
I suppose with the internet everything is kind of out there if you look, but it can be kind of traumatic to learn the inhumanity of man to their fellow men at a young age.
For what it's worth, I 100% understand the points made by CRT courses.
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12-08-2021, 05:30 PM
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Exactly.
Unless one knows the history of the horrific genocidal expansion of the Japanese empire in the 20th century you cannot understand the United States sanctions against Japan that Japan used as justification for the attack on Pearl Harbor.
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Riought, the white man was in Asia for humanitarian reasons. Pass me that Kool Aid.
The USA was backing up England and France in their former Colonial ambitions. Then, we sought to expand our influence in order to contain Communism. And to make the US dollar a dominant world currency in order to expand our influence globally.
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