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08-17-2021, 08:47 AM
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The fact that they didn't die proves nothing about your wonder drug. Your observation has as much validity as saying that the orange juice they had with breakfast cured COVID.
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You are correct, of course. That's why I included the links in the OP that offer empirical evidence.
To use an analogy, the empirical evidence says that Aspirin can cure a headache, and then my brother and his friend, both with headaches, take aspirin and their headache's go away. This sort of discussion used to be so simple. Now the "flat earthers" want to argue that their headaches going away proves nothing.
Meanwhile, I eat well, change the oil regularly in my car, water my plants when we're in a dry spell and drink plenty of water on long distance bike rides. Those things all seem to work for me, though they "prove nothing."
Of course, YMMV.
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08-17-2021, 08:55 AM
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How many studies proving masks and c-19 vaccines are effective and safe are ignored.
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Good question. Do you have any links that show empirical evidence? Do they take into account the negative effects of masks like this one?: https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0422121724.htm
Note: I used that link because it predates the politicization of masks after Rona became a thing in 2020. You know, the days when nobody had a political point to make and science (at least regarding wearing masks) was trustworthy.
Once any part of scientific study becomes politicized, it is important to use extra scrutiny in trusting any source. And the most untrustworthy are "standard news sources". Places like CNN, Fox news, the NYT, NYP, LA Times, WaPo, etc.
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08-17-2021, 09:10 AM
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As Delta Surges, Covid-19 Breakthrough Cases Remain Uncommon
WSJ analysis finds higher risk of infection from strain, but research shows that vaccines still protect against most serious illness
https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-delt...on-11629199800
Get the damn vaccine, even if you’re as stupid as the Insane Clown.
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08-17-2021, 09:25 AM
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As Delta Surges, Covid-19 Breakthrough Cases Remain Uncommon
WSJ analysis finds higher risk of infection from strain, but research shows that vaccines still protect against most serious illness
https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-delt...on-11629199800
Get the damn vaccine, even if you’re as stupid as the Insane Clown.
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Waste of typing on your part.
Much like wearing a helmet on a bike.
They either get it or not......
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08-17-2021, 09:47 AM
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Waste of typing on your part.
Much like wearing a helmet on a bike.
They either get it or not...... 
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Facts are always worth repeating, no matter the audience's level of stupidity.
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08-17-2021, 10:08 AM
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How is it that folks that won't vax because it's "experimental" are ok with taking something with a different purpose "off-label"?
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Because it's not experimental. It has known effects. It's like taking aspirin to treat it. Even if it doesn't help, it won't hurt. And I take an aspirin a day for blood pressure, even though that is not its intended use.
This will crack some of you up, and scare others:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CSaR9AYp...rDkxRobWXePOLw
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08-17-2021, 10:11 AM
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Waste of typing on your part.
Much like wearing a helmet on a bike.
They either get it or not...... 
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So true. I used to be a member of the Cascade Bycycle Club in Seattle. I got into a pretty heated discussion with the president of the club regarding helmets. He though it should be legally required. I told him that I think it is a smart thing to do, but it should not be the law. But I'm more into personal freedom than he was.
I tried to explain that the same logic used to require helmets could also be used to remove bicycles from public roads. My son was a bike messenger in downtown Seattle. He went to two friends' funerals, both hit by cars. Both wearing helmets.
I still wear a helmet and feel naked without one when riding, but I don't think I have the right to tell others they HAVE TO. And regarding their kids? Not my kids. It's none of my business.
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08-17-2021, 10:17 AM
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Facts are always worth repeating, no matter the audience's level of stupidity.
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What about the facts in my OP?
Or do you just choose which "facts" to believe? Check out Worldometers. The death rate is so low I don't know why they even call it out relative to all the other death statistics they track. And then there is this from yesterday:
Experts: The COVID Emergency is Over
Lots of text, videos and graphs there.
A snip:
Dr. Scott Gottlieb, the former Commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration, asserted on Friday that COVID-19 will become an endemic virus in the United States and other Western countries once the recent rise in Delta variant infections calms down. Likewise, two professors—one from Stanford and one from Harvard—have essentially declared the pandemic over, writing that “In [the] USA, COVID mortality is now the lowest since the start of the pandemic in March 2020.”
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08-17-2021, 02:36 PM
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Fact-checking claim about the use of ivermectin to treat COVID-19
https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...tin-treat-cov/
FALSE Only an idiot would self-prescribe this to "treat" COVID. Sadly, Trumpkins are idiots - every last one of them.
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08-17-2021, 03:13 PM
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Facts are always worth repeating, no matter the audience's level of stupidity.
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Exactly! Didja' notice how the red state Trumplicans started lining up for vaccinations when the bullets (Delta variant) started whizzing overhead? Still others will wait until the person on their left and the person on their right start "taking fire". Still others will bury their heads in the sand while their ass gets shot off.
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