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Old 07-03-2021, 01:50 PM
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I still think he should be tried for sedition and/or treason. He instigated the riot/attempted insurrection out in plain view. The only ones in government who disagree are complicit either by actions leading up to it or the denial of it afterwards. If Donny and the tRumplicans had not pushed the big lie what happened on Jan 6 would not have occurred, plain and simple. Well before the election without a shred of evidence or probable cause he declared it would be rigged and full of fraud. IMO had he stopped there he'd be in the clear but of course he didn't which is why we are where we are now. Anything less and we're setting it up to happen again.
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Old 07-04-2021, 05:07 PM
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I still think he should be tried for sedition and/or treason. He instigated the riot/attempted insurrection out in plain view. The only ones in government who disagree are complicit either by actions leading up to it or the denial of it afterwards. If Donny and the tRumplicans had not pushed the big lie what happened on Jan 6 would not have occurred, plain and simple. Well before the election without a shred of evidence or probable cause he declared it would be rigged and full of fraud. IMO had he stopped there he'd be in the clear but of course he didn't which is why we are where we are now. Anything less and we're setting it up to happen again.
Agree in principle but will never happen; after all he skated through two impeachments, both of them slam dunk. We 'historically' remove presidents via impeachment, not prosecute them, at least that's the belief system in the Justice Depratment. Now for the Trump Organization to face charges under the RICO act? That would fly because its about money and not character. Trump is a crook and cheat, everyone agrees but the GQP does not mind one bit. To them 'owning the dems' is a lot more important than the country.
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Old 07-04-2021, 05:58 PM
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The GQP Trump cult does not care to see any of the truth that is negative or counter to the masters of their reality.

Would rather take to the gills any screwy theory as fact that reinforces the message from above.....

Sending T to jail will allow them to feel even more sympathy for him. Much akin to Hitler and his writing a a book while in prison. He will use it to feed the cult more of his hate!
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Old 07-04-2021, 06:52 PM
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Agree in principle but will never happen; after all he skated through two impeachments, both of them slam dunk. We 'historically' remove presidents via impeachment, not prosecute them, at least that's the belief system in the Justice Depratment. Now for the Trump Organization to face charges under the RICO act? That would fly because its about money and not character. Trump is a crook and cheat, everyone agrees but the GQP does not mind one bit. To them 'owning the dems' is a lot more important than the country.
Had his impeachment resulted in a removal from office you can bet the tRumplicans would have said that was punishment enough. The tRumplicans would still cry a criminal prosecution was nothing more than a political hit job but so what. I don't give a rats hind quarters what they think. To them he will forever be their golden idol. Just like some clung to "The South shall rise again" the cult will cling to "The election was stolen". Again so what, the rest of us will move on.
The thought of him in jail is moot. I still say he will flee rather than face jail. He hates being ridiculed. Probably more than losing. If he ever did get jail I buy hundreds of the pictures of him in an orange jumpsuit and mail him one every day asking him to autograph it.
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Old 07-05-2021, 01:51 AM
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I still think he should be tried for sedition and/or treason. He instigated the riot/attempted insurrection out in plain view. The only ones in government who disagree are complicit either by actions leading up to it or the denial of it afterwards. If Donny and the tRumplicans had not pushed the big lie what happened on Jan 6 would not have occurred, plain and simple. Well before the election without a shred of evidence or probable cause he declared it would be rigged and full of fraud. IMO had he stopped there he'd be in the clear but of course he didn't which is why we are where we are now. Anything less and we're setting it up to happen again.
Absolutely! That's what countries that cherish rule of law do.
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Old 07-05-2021, 10:32 AM
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The Brits used to call the more progressive leftists in government 'wets.' Similarly, I fear the Biden administration is too much 'dry.' Don't want to prosecute Trump out of some respect for the office thing, and a feeling that we should not have a precedent of the winners prosecuting the losers after the election. I think the precedent of allowing Trump to get away with sedition is worse. Too dry!
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Old 07-05-2021, 05:36 PM
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Trump has cut off Rudy Giuliani, and is annoyed that he asked to be paid for his work on challenging the election

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Donald Trump's family has cut off Rudy Giuliani, and the former president has been irked that the lawyer asked to be paid for his work challenging Trump's loss in the 2020 election, a new book says.

On Sunday, The Times of London published an excerpt from "Landslide: The Final Days of the Trump Presidency," the coming book on the Trump presidency from the author Michael Wolff.

In the extract, Wolff delves into Trump's postpresidential life at his Mar-a-Lago resort and describes Trump as frustrated by the lack of progress in his quest to overturn the 2020 election result.
I think Rudy should send his bill to collections, should be fun collectors chasing Trump in NY and Florida.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...l-wolff-2021-7
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Old 07-06-2021, 12:20 PM
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I wonder if Rudy could put a lien on a property of tRump's to force payment? Say for instance a certain property in FL perhaps?
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Old 07-06-2021, 12:30 PM
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The Brits used to call the more progressive leftists in government 'wets.' Similarly, I fear the Biden administration is too much 'dry.' Don't want to prosecute Trump out of some respect for the office thing, and a feeling that we should not have a precedent of the winners prosecuting the losers after the election. I think the precedent of allowing Trump to get away with sedition is worse. Too dry!
Well first of all MAGA Lardo had no respect for the office in the first place and the US Constitution in the second place. Thirdly if the Repubes want to prosecute a former Democrat president it would likely blow up in their faces. No Democrat president in recent history has ever abused the office with the amount of illegal acts Donny has. Letting tRumpty slide without governmental prosecution is an unwise idea.

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Well first of all MAGA Lardo had no respect for the office in the first place and the US Constitution in the second place. Thirdly if the Repubes want to prosecute a former Democrat president it would likely blow up in their faces. No Democrat president in recent history has ever abused the office with the amount of illegal acts Donny has. Letting tRumpty slide without governmental prosecution is an unwise idea.

Agreed all the way. Too dry, I say, too dry.

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