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rolled back regulations that stopped coal companies from dumping waste into rivers, held blatant campaign rallies at the White House, tried to take away millions of Americans’ health insurance because the law was named for a Black man, refused to attend his successors’ inauguration, nominated the worst Education Secretary in history, threatened judges who didn’t do what he wanted, attacked Dr. Anthony Fauci, promised that Mexico would pay for the wall (it didn’t), allowed political hacks to overrule government scientists on major reports on climate change and other issues, struggled navigating a ramp after claiming his opponent was feeble, called an African-American Congresswoman “low IQ,” threatened to withhold federal aid from states and cities with Democratic leaders, went ahead with rallies filled with maskless supporters in the middle of a pandemic, claimed that legitimate investigations of his wrongdoing were “witch hunts,” seemed to demonstrate a belief that there were airports during the American Revolution, demanded “total loyalty” from the FBI director, praised a conspiracy theory that Democrats are Satanic pedophiles, completely gutted the Voice of America, placed a political hack in charge of the Postal Service, claimed without evidence that the Obama administration bugged Trump Tower, suggested that the US should allow more people from places like Norway into the country, suggested that COVID wasn’t that bad because he recovered with the help of top government doctors and treatments not available to the public, overturned energy conservation standards that even industry supported, reduced the number of refugees the US accepts, insulted various members of Congress and the media with infantile nicknames, gave Rush Limbaugh a Presidential medal of Freedom at the State of the Union address, named as head of federal personnel a 29-year old who’d previously been fired from the White House for allegations of financial improprieties, eliminated the White House office of pandemic response, used soldiers as campaign props, fired any advisor who made the mistake of disagreeing with him, demanded the Pentagon throw him a Soviet-style military parade, hired a shit ton of white nationalists, politicized the civil service, did absolutely nothing after Russia hacked the U.S. government, falsely said the Boy Scouts called him to say his bizarre Jamboree speech was the best speech ever given to the Scouts, claimed that Black people would overrun the suburbs if Biden won, insulted reporters of color, insulted women reporters, insulted women reporters of color, suggested he was fine with China’s oppression of the Uighurs, attacked the Supreme Court when it ruled against him, summoned Pennsylvania state legislative leaders to the White House to pressure them to overturn the election, spent countless hours every day watching Fox News, refused to allow his administration to comply with Congressional subpoenas, hired Rudy Giuliani as his lawyer, tried to punish Amazon because the Jeff Bezos-owned Washington Post wrote negative stories about him, acted as if the Attorney General of the United States was his personal attorney, attempted to get the federal government to defend him in a libel lawsuit from a women who accused him of sexual assault, held private meetings with Vladimir Putin without staff present, didn’t disclose his private meetings with Vladimir Putin so that the US had to find out via Russian media, stopped holding press briefings for months at a time, “ordered” US companies to leave China even though he has no such power, led a political party that couldn’t even be bothered to draft a policy platform, claimed preposterously that Article II of the Constitution gave him absolute powers, tried to pressure the U.K. to hold the British Open at his golf course, suggested that the government nuke hurricanes, suggested that wind turbines cause cancer, said that he had a special aptitude for science, fired the head of election cyber security after he said that the 2020 election was secure, blurted out classified information to Russian officials, tried to force the G7 to hold their meeting at his failing golf resort in Florida, fired the acting attorney general when she refused to go along with his unconstitutional Muslim travel ban, hired Stephen Miller, openly discussed national security issues in the dining room at Mar-a-Lago where everyone could hear them, interfered with plans to relocate the FBI because a new development there might compete with his hotel, abandoned Iraqi refugees who’d helped the U.S. during the war, tried to get Russia back into the G7, held a COVID super spreader event in the Rose Garden, seemed to believe that Frederick Douglass is still alive, lost 60 election fraud cases in court including before judges he had nominated, falsely claimed that factories were reopening when they weren’t, shamelessly exploited terror attacks in Europe to justify his anti-immigrant policies, still hasn’t come up with a healthcare plan, still hasn’t come up with an infrastructure plan despite repeated “Infrastructure Weeks,” forced Secret Service agents to drive him around Walter Reed while contagious with COVID, told the Proud Boys to “stand back and stand by,” fucked up the Census, withdrew the U.S. from the World Health Organization in the middle of a pandemic, did so few of his duties that his press staff were forced to state on his daily schedule “President Trump will work from early in the morning until late in the evening. He will make many calls and have many meetings,” allowed his staff to repeatedly violate the Hatch Act, seemed not to know that Abraham Lincoln was a Republican, stood before sacred CIA wall of heroes and bragged about his election win, constantly claimed he was treated worse than any president which presumably includes four that were assassinated and his predecessor whose legitimacy and birthplace were challenged by a racist reality TV show star named Donald Trump, claimed Andrew Jackson could’ve stopped the Civil War even though he died 16 years before it happened, said that any opinion poll showing him behind was fake, claimed that other countries laughed at us before he became president when several world leaders were literally laughing at him, claimed that the military was out of ammunition before he became President, created a commission to whitewash American history, retweeted anti-Islam videos from one of the most racist people in Britain, claimed ludicrously that the Pulse nightclub shooting wouldn’t have happened if someone there had a gun even though there was an armed security guard there, hired a senior staffer who cited the non-existent Bowling Green Massacre as a reason to ban Muslims, had a press secretary who claimed that Nazi Germany never used chemical weapons even though every sane human being knows they used gas to kill millions of Jews and others, bilked the Secret Service for higher than market rates when they had to stay at Trump properties, apparently sold pardons on his way out of the White House, stripped protective status from 59,000 Haitians, falsely claimed Biden wanted to defund the police, said that the head of the CDC didn’t know what he was talking about, tried to rescind protection from DREAMers, gave himself an A+ for his handling of the pandemic, tried to start a boycott of Goodyear tires due to an Internet hoax, said U.S. rates of COVID would be lower if you didn’t count blue states, deported U.S. veterans who served their country but were undocumented, claimed he did more for African Americans than any president since Lincoln, touted a “super-duper” secret “hydrosonic” missile which may or may not be a new “hypersonic” missile or may not exist at all, retweeted a gif calling Biden a pedophile, forced through security clearances for his family, suggested that police officers should rough up suspects, suggested that Biden was on performance-enhancing drugs, tried to stop transgender students from being able to use school bathrooms in line with their gender, suggested the US not accept COVID patients from a cruise ship because it would make US numbers look higher, nominated a climate change sceptic to chair the committee advising the White House on environmental policy, retweeted a video doctored to look like Biden had played a song called “Fuck tha Police” at a campaign event, hugged a disturbingly large number of U.S. flags, accused Democrats of “treason” for not applauding his State of the Union address, claimed that the FBI failed to capture the Parkland school shooter because they were “spending too much time” on Russia, mocked the testimony of Dr Christine Blasey Ford when she accused Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault, obsessed over low-flow toilets, ordered the rerelease of more COVID vaccines when there weren’t any to release, called for the construction of a bizarre garden of heroes with statutes of famous dead Americans as well as at least one Canadian (Alex Trebek), hijacked Washington’s July 4th celebrations to give a partisan speech, took advice from the MyPillow guy, claimed that migrants seeking a better life in the US were dangerous caravans of drug dealers and rapists, said nothing when Vladimir Putin poisoned a leading opposition figure, never seemed to heed the advice of his wife’s “Be Best” campaign, falsely claimed that mail-in voting is fraudulent, announced a precipitous withdrawal of troops from Syria which not only handed Russia and ISIS a win but also prompted his defense secretary to resign in protest, insulted the leader of Canada, insulted the leader of France, insulted the leader of Britain, insulted the leader of Germany, insulted the leader of Sweden (Sweden!!), falsely claimed credit for getting NATO members to increase their share of dues, blew off two Asia summits even though they were held virtually, continued lying about spending lots of time at Ground Zero with 9/11 responders, said that the Japanese would sit back and watch their “Sony televisions” if the US were ever attacked, left a NATO summit early in a huff, stared directly into an eclipse even though everyone over the age of 5 knows not to do that, called himself a very stable genius despite significant evidence to the contrary, refused to commit to a peaceful transfer of power and kept his promise, and a whole bunch of other things I can’t remember at the moment.
But other than that. . .”
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02-17-2021, 06:45 PM
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Chicks, That's it?
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02-17-2021, 11:40 PM
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02-17-2021, 11:47 PM
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A New York sendoff to a fellow New Yorker.
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02-17-2021, 11:56 PM
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Chicks, That's it?
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Not even close, Unc. (grin)
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02-18-2021, 12:36 AM
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On name calling; you do it plenty. Maybe walk the talk a bit better?
When I first got here, the retards responded to every opinion I had with the word "TROLL." That was their label for anything they didn't want to hear. All I'm doing is giving them back what they are shoveling. They obviously are not used to that in this safe space. Maybe it'll make them grow up and learn how to think and debate. Right now, they are a bunch of children.
On 80% of the country being mainstream conservatives: the Gallup poll referenced in the article states that 37% Americans self-identify as conservatives; how do you get 80% from that? Also, it's worth noting that there are no definitions of conservative in the poll, so whether they conform to your definition cannot be stated.
Gallup, (and other polls) mostly call Democrats.
I like your list of conservative values, though it's pretty simplistic. But I'm not criticizing because, to be fair, I asked a large, open-ended question.
Simplistic probably because the education level in this place isn't exactly Rhodes Scholar tiers. A long time ago when I briefly taught Business English at a community college in Orlando, I told my students they had to find ways to use as few words as possible to get their message across. Long winded certainly doesn't work here, especially with the massive amount of windbags you have.
I can say with certainty that many non-conservatives would agree with some of these, and possibly with most, depending on the details.
That is a joke. Woke Liberals wipe their asses on the rule of law. They look at "Free market" anything like a turd in the swimming pool. They look at secure borders as racist.
For example, adherence to the rule of law, adherence to the Constitution (basically the same things), a trustworthy election system, freedom balanced with personal responsibility, streamline government, secure borders. I like free market capitalism so long as its excesses are checked.
Like I said, Woke Liberals wipe their asses on the Constitution. Personal Responsibility, to a Woke? Might as well call a nun a whore.
Unfettered capitalism leads to disaster, every time.
In history, there has NEVER been a case of unfettered capitalism. It has absolutely never been tried. Government involvement in capitalism always leads to disaster and that has always been a constant in history.
I have no idea what you mean by protection of the family unit.
The nuclear family unit of husband (male) and wife (female) to take care of and raise children is the ONLY reason the human race hasn't gone totally extinct over the centuries.
(The book Men and Marriage by George Gilder is an excellent source of information, in case the concept of FAMILY is alien to you. Also, you might want to research individual state Family Law statutes, all of which were carefully crafted by state legislatures to preserve the nuclear family. Just because ignorant uneducated Woke Libs hate the idea of a regular family doesn't diminish it's monumental importance over the history of mankind.)
It has been under attack from liberalism probably since the mid-Sixties with the Great Society welfare plantation. Welfare has destroyed families, created a permanent underclass of dependents and accounts for most of the crime in the large cities.
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I will respond to some of the specific issues individually but for now a general comment. I find it fascinating and puzzling that I am writing to you, Reason10, talking about your thoughts and opinions, but you are responding to some nebulous group of people you don't like. That's weird, and frankly dehumanizing and insulting. It comes across as a passive-aggressive way of trying to tell me what I think. How can I have a discourse with someone who doesn't acknowledge what I am telling them that I believe, but insists on ascribing to me some set of opinions held by others?
I can only share my experiences and thoughts in good faith. If you don't think I am acting in good faith, muster the balls to say so. I mean, why even engage at all if you think that?
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02-18-2021, 08:16 AM
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I will respond to some of the specific issues individually but for now a general comment. I find it fascinating and puzzling that I am writing to you, Reason10, talking about your thoughts and opinions, but you are responding to some nebulous group of people you don't like.
Perhaps you should ask this "nebulous" group of retards why, when I first arrived, referred to me as a TROLL. Kinda hard to like someone who first the first insults.
That's weird, and frankly dehumanizing and insulting.
But calling me a troll merely for having conservative opinions isn't weird, dehumanizing and insulting. Got it.
It comes across as a passive-aggressive way of trying to tell me what I think. How can I have a discourse with someone who doesn't acknowledge what I am telling them that I believe, but insists on ascribing to me some set of opinions held by others?
I didn't call you a troll. Your selective moral outrage has a glitch in the aiming scope.
I can only share my experiences and thoughts in good faith. If you don't think I am acting in good faith, muster the balls to say so. I mean, why even engage at all if you think that?
All I've done here is post my views in good faith. And pretty much all I've gotten is insult after insult, from the Goose Steppers and Cross Burners here. I'm fair with people. I give everyone the benefit of the doubt. If they want to be brats, they are going to be treated like brats, simple as that.
As you may have accidentally discovered, I'm pretty capable of discussing issues without it getting personal. As soon as some of the Hitler Youth here grow a brain and douse the fire on their crosses, perhaps their small minds could stand a little challenging.
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02-18-2021, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Reason10
I will respond to some of the specific issues individually but for now a general comment. I find it fascinating and puzzling that I am writing to you, Reason10, talking about your thoughts and opinions, but you are responding to some nebulous group of people you don't like.
Perhaps you should ask this "nebulous" group of retards why, when I first arrived, referred to me as a TROLL. Kinda hard to like someone who first the first insults.
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You continue to do it. I don't need to ask anyone else anything. I am responsible for what I write, and that's it. What do they have to do with me?
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That's weird, and frankly dehumanizing and insulting.
But calling me a troll merely for having conservative opinions isn't weird, dehumanizing and insulting. Got it.
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I did not say that, so again don't put words in my mouth. And stop deflecting. The way you continue to ignore what I am saying while responding to me is weird.
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Originally Posted by Reason10
It comes across as a passive-aggressive way of trying to tell me what I think. How can I have a discourse with someone who doesn't acknowledge what I am telling them that I believe, but insists on ascribing to me some set of opinions held by others?
I didn't call you a troll. Your selective moral outrage has a glitch in the aiming scope.
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Same as previous answer.
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Originally Posted by Reason10
I can only share my experiences and thoughts in good faith. If you don't think I am acting in good faith, muster the balls to say so. I mean, why even engage at all if you think that?
All I've done here is post my views in good faith. And pretty much all I've gotten is insult after insult, from the Goose Steppers and Cross Burners here. I'm fair with people. I give everyone the benefit of the doubt. If they want to be brats, they are going to be treated like brats, simple as that.
As you may have accidentally discovered, I'm pretty capable of discussing issues without it getting personal. As soon as some of the Hitler Youth here grow a brain and douse the fire on their crosses, perhaps their small minds could stand a little challenging.
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I empathize. I participate in another forum, where the overwhelming majority share your political opinions, and it is one long bash fest, of dismissive one-liners, insults, and so on directed at me while I have remained civil. I have mostly given up there, not because of the behavior but simply because none of them are interested in what I have to say. It's a waste of time.
However, I don't think I've seen one epithet-free post from you. So no, I have not yet seen you discuss issues without getting personal.
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02-18-2021, 03:22 PM
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Manhattan D.A. Recruits Top Prosecutor for Trump Inquiry
The Manhattan district attorney has enlisted a former federal prosecutor who is an expert on white-collar crime to join the team investigating the Trump family business.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/18/n...manhattan.html
No spineless Repube senators to protect you here, Donny! SERIOUS prison time in your future.
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02-18-2021, 03:50 PM
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They won't be able to protect him but I guarantee they'll be crying about how the plaintiffs and prosecutors are being so unfair to poor Donny. Look for Sir Grift-A-Lot to continue begging for money for his legal defenses.
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