The GREATEST President in history acquitted...

[Reason10]

Originally Posted by Yggdrasill

So, I read the Fox News article you linked and I notice that they refer several times to Trump's "false claims that he'd won the Presidential election." Seems to run contrary to your assertion that Biden was not elected.

Also, you say that Trump is "wildly popular." How do you define "wildly popular". More popular than, say, Obama?

Obama is the worst president in the history of America. But he is loved by the few Tech giants and the billionaires on K Street who were able to get richer by buying him off.

Trump won 75 MILLION legal votes, a lot more than Jim Crow Joe. That senile racist will go down in history as the first pResident to win by the vote of copy machines. And when the House and Senate flip back to the GOP in 2022, he is going to pay for the felonies he has committed.

Neither Jim Crow Joe nor the KENYAN VILLAGE IDIOT had the power to draw such HUGE crowds of loyal American taxpayers like President Trump. That's the wildly popular part.

You know Biden didn't win. Everybody knows it. And until that is rectified, the country is currently under illegal occupation.

[Reason10]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

I cannot but contemplate the fact that this potus was impeached twice and permanently banned by Twitter. Lost House, Senate and the WH. Only losers worship other losers.

Impeached illegally. Twitter is in violation of the Sherman Act and will pay dearly when President Trump takes the oath of office in 25 and works with a Republican Congress to stop this coercive monopoly.

The Senate was lost by voter fraud in Georgia. And that will be rectified in 2022 when both houses of Congress go back from the Nazis to America.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is just an idiot.

[Yggdrasill]

Originally Posted by Reason10

I haven't called you any names or vilified you in any way. But I agree with you that it happens too much on this listserv, and it is largely directed at the few Trump supporters who participate here. It never furthers the conversation.


One would have to go back to the KKK days of Reconstruction to see the amount of hate I see from the WokeNazis here, against the taxpayers, (better known as Trump supporters)

Do you have any data to corroborate your assertion that 80% of Americans are mainstream conservative? And also, please define mainstream conservative.


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...ust-24-liberal

Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal


Definitions of mainstream conservatism?

Free market capitalism.
The rule of law.
Adherence to the Constitution, (INCLUDING the amendments that deal with discrimination on the basis of the protected classes in the 14th Amendment).
Streamlined government.
Low, affordable tax rates.
Secure borders, (see "rule of law.")
Protection of the family unit.
Freedom and liberty, balanced by personal responsibility.
A reliable and trustworthy electoral system.


Is there any politician alive today who is a perfect combination of all these traits? I maintain that no human being is perfect, and that we are all flawed. Nobody expects perfection.

Private Sector Donald Trump was an imperfect man, and Democrats LOVED him, (mostly because he bought off Democrat candidates with campaign checks just to leave him alone.) Ironically, he became the PERFECT President, as far as job performance goes, and somehow that earned the sheer hatred of the Woke left, as well as some conservatives.

(Yes, Virginia, there are conservatives who are sorely pissed that this Trump guy was able to implement in three short years the type of conservatism they had been promising for the past thirty years.)

On name calling; you do it plenty. Maybe walk the talk a bit better?

On 80% of the country being mainstream conservatives: the Gallup poll referenced in the article states that 37% Americans self-identify as conservatives; how do you get 80% from that? Also, it's worth noting that there are no definitions of conservative in the poll, so whether they conform to your definition cannot be stated.

I like your list of conservative values, though it's pretty simplistic. But I'm not criticizing because, to be fair, I asked a large, open-ended question.

I can say with certainty that many non-conservatives would agree with some of these, and possibly with most, depending on the details. For example, adherence to the rule of law, adherence to the Constitution (basically the same things), a trustworthy election system, freedom balanced with personal responsibility, streamline government, secure borders. I like free market capitalism so long as its excesses are checked. Unfettered capitalism leads to disaster, every time. I have no idea what you mean by protection of the family unit.

[Yggdrasill]

Originally Posted by Reason10

Obama is the worst president in the history of America. But he is loved by the few Tech giants and the billionaires on K Street who were able to get richer by buying him off.

Trump won 75 MILLION legal votes, a lot more than Jim Crow Joe. That senile racist will go down in history as the first pResident to win by the vote of copy machines. And when the House and Senate flip back to the GOP in 2022, he is going to pay for the felonies he has committed.

Neither Jim Crow Joe nor the KENYAN VILLAGE IDIOT had the power to draw such HUGE crowds of loyal American taxpayers like President Trump. That's the wildly popular part.

You know Biden didn't win. Everybody knows it. And until that is rectified, the country is currently under illegal occupation.

Man, I would so much more enjoy reading your posts without all the vitriol and name-calling.

I understand that you don't like Obama, but you did not answer my question. You said that Trump was, "wildly popular" and I asked what you meant, if he was, for example, as popular as Obama. But you deflected and started raging. What evidence do you have that Obama did not draw crowds as large as Trump? No offense, but you don't come across as someone who went to any Obama rallies. According to a chart of Gallup polls (which we have already established that you trust) on Wikipedia, Obama's high and low favorables were 67 and 40 respectively; Trump's were 49 and 34. Obama's highest disapproval rating was 55; Trump's was 62.

If you accept that Trump won 75 million votes (74.2 actually), then you also have to accept that Biden won 81.2 million, since the counts for both were done by the same people and the same electoral processes.

No, I don't know that Biden didn't win because I have not seen any evidence to support that conclusion. When have I asked for it on forums I inevitably get reports that simply regurgitate allegations that have been thoroughly debunked. If voter and electoral fraud were as widespread and overwhelming as you claim then please explain why: 1) Trump lost every election-fraud court case, even in front of judges he appointed; 2) His own DOJ, led by his loyal supporter Barr, could not find any evidence; 3) His own DHS could not find any evidence; 4) election results were certified by Republicans in key swing states (e.g., Georgia), who had political and personal reasons to see Trump prevail, and even stood up to intense direct pressure from Trump (think Raffensperger phone call).

Now that Dominion and Smartmatic have sued Fox, Sidney Powell, Guiliani, for defamation, we'll see if any actual evidence comes out.

Here's my question to you. I have stated what it would take for me to change my mind about the election's validity: hard proof of consequential fraud. What would it take for you to change your mind? I'm assuming that you are a fact-based thinker, which demands of course that you are open to revising your opinion if and when the facts merit.

[Chicks]

@Yggdrasill, you're trying to get blood from a turnip. This clown is clearly a cultist. "Reason" is something he will never do.

[Yggdrasill]

Originally Posted by Chicks

@Yggdrasill, you're trying to get blood from a turnip. This clown is clearly a cultist. "Reason" is something he will never do.

I can't help it. I'm a relentless optimist.

[mpholland]

Originally Posted by Yggdrasill

I can't help it. I'm a relentless optimist.

I'll let you be the optimist. The fact that he calls me a WOKE liberal tells me he doesn't research anything that he spews. Well that, and the fact that if 80% of Americans are conservative, how the hell are 56 of the 67 cities over 250K left leaning?

[RickeyM]

Denial is a very comforting cloak to wrap oneself in.

[Reason10]

On name calling; you do it plenty. Maybe walk the talk a bit better?

When I first got here, the retards responded to every opinion I had with the word "TROLL." That was their label for anything they didn't want to hear. All I'm doing is giving them back what they are shoveling. They obviously are not used to that in this safe space. Maybe it'll make them grow up and learn how to think and debate. Right now, they are a bunch of children.

On 80% of the country being mainstream conservatives: the Gallup poll referenced in the article states that 37% Americans self-identify as conservatives; how do you get 80% from that? Also, it's worth noting that there are no definitions of conservative in the poll, so whether they conform to your definition cannot be stated.

Gallup, (and other polls) mostly call Democrats.

I like your list of conservative values, though it's pretty simplistic. But I'm not criticizing because, to be fair, I asked a large, open-ended question.


Simplistic probably because the education level in this place isn't exactly Rhodes Scholar tiers. A long time ago when I briefly taught Business English at a community college in Orlando, I told my students they had to find ways to use as few words as possible to get their message across. Long winded certainly doesn't work here, especially with the massive amount of windbags you have.


I can say with certainty that many non-conservatives would agree with some of these, and possibly with most, depending on the details.

That is a joke. Woke Liberals wipe their asses on the rule of law. They look at "Free market" anything like a turd in the swimming pool. They look at secure borders as racist.


For example, adherence to the rule of law, adherence to the Constitution (basically the same things), a trustworthy election system, freedom balanced with personal responsibility, streamline government, secure borders. I like free market capitalism so long as its excesses are checked.

Like I said, Woke Liberals wipe their asses on the Constitution. Personal Responsibility, to a Woke? Might as well call a nun a whore.


Unfettered capitalism leads to disaster, every time.

In history, there has NEVER been a case of unfettered capitalism. It has absolutely never been tried. Government involvement in capitalism always leads to disaster and that has always been a constant in history.


I have no idea what you mean by protection of the family unit.

The nuclear family unit of husband (male) and wife (female) to take care of and raise children is the ONLY reason the human race hasn't gone totally extinct over the centuries.

(The book Men and Marriage by George Gilder is an excellent source of information, in case the concept of FAMILY is alien to you. Also, you might want to research individual state Family Law statutes, all of which were carefully crafted by state legislatures to preserve the nuclear family. Just because ignorant uneducated Woke Libs hate the idea of a regular family doesn't diminish it's monumental importance over the history of mankind.)

It has been under attack from liberalism probably since the mid-Sixties with the Great Society welfare plantation. Welfare has destroyed families, created a permanent underclass of dependents and accounts for most of the crime in the large cities.

[Rajoo]

Atlantic City says FU to Trump. Only a moron can lose running a casino, but then what else is new?

Trump Era in Atlantic City Ends With 3,000 Sticks of Dynamite

Trump Plaza was the first of three casinos Mr. Trump owned before his gambling businesses in Atlantic City cratered and went bankrupt for good, leaving a trail of unpaid contractors and suppliers — and a bad taste for the Trump brand in this struggling city of 38,000.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/17/n...implosion.html