Hooligans, Murdererous nipple heads and Vandals

[donquixote99]

Strange phone campaign. Trying to build the revolution, it seems.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by Oerets

Something must of got the local cult going yesterday. For around four oclock I received three separate calls. With the same statement pretty much.
Proof that Trump won the election....because you don't see Biden voters out with flags, hats basically wearing a uniform proclaiming their support!

WTF!

Told the three, we don't need to be reminded of or reinforcement of others.

So tRump won because Biden's voters aren't carrying on like mind numbed cult members. Oooo Kaaayyy

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Strange phone campaign. Trying to build the revolution, it seems.

Well, it seems Tweeter isn't an option these days

[Mark B]

Originally Posted by Oerets

Something must of got the local cult going yesterday. For around four oclock I received three separate calls. With the same statement pretty much.
Proof that Trump won the election....because you don't see Biden voters out with flags, hats basically wearing a uniform proclaiming their support!

WTF!

Told the three, we don't need to be reminded of or reinforcement of others.

Originally Posted by RickeyM

So tRump won because Biden's voters aren't carrying on like mind numbed cult members. Oooo Kaaayyy

Trump supporters only believe approved Trump propaganda sources. There is no due diligence or critical thinking being done by these drones.

[donquixote99]

"Trump supporters only believe approved Trump propaganda sources. There is no due diligence or critical thinking being done by these drones."

Give them just a little disapproval and disrespect and move on (or call the cops if warranted). Mostly they (and society) will just have to grow out of this.

You can attempt to deprogram a close friend or family member who trusts you, and you probably should. But it's a project, takes time and effort. Not accomplished by facts and argument....

[Oerets]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

So tRump won because Biden's voters aren't carrying on like mind numbed cult members. Oooo Kaaayyy

Originally Posted by Mark B

Trump supporters only believe approved Trump propaganda sources. There is no due diligence or critical thinking being done by these drones.

You can't reason with them. The more you try, the worse it gets. The reality of theirs is so filled with racism, hate, totally dark and confusing. I understand why they have the need to be told what to think by a master. No independent thinking or searching out information. All seem to only talk amongst those with similar views.

I have started not taking their calls or answer their texts and messages after yesterdays events.

[Yggdrasill]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Give them just a little disapproval and disrespect and move on (or call the cops if warranted). Mostly they (and society) will just have to grow out of this.

You can attempt to deprogram a close friend or family member who trusts you, and you probably should. But it's a project, takes time and effort. Not accomplished by facts and argument....

I agree that persuading people won't be accomplished by argument. However, you will need, and rely on, facts. You can't get anywhere telling people that they are wrong or racists. No one will hear you after that. You should acknowledge their concerns and ask for evidence. Make it clear that you are not hardened in your position and are willing to learn and change your own mind if new information comes to light.

A lot of these people are afraid, and fear shuts down your higher brain functions. A message that things are not bad as they believe, I think will eventually resonate and be a relief, once they come to accept the evidence. But it will be a slooooooow process.

[Oerets]

Originally Posted by Yggdrasill

I agree that persuading people won't be accomplished by argument. However, you will need, and rely on, facts. You can't get anywhere telling people that they are wrong or racists. No one will hear you after that. You should acknowledge their concerns and ask for evidence. Make it clear that you are not hardened in your position and are willing to learn and change your own mind if new information comes to light.

A lot of these people are afraid, and fear shuts down your higher brain functions. A message that things are not bad as they believe, I think will eventually resonate and be a relief, once they come to accept the evidence. But it will be a slooooooow process.

My personal experiences up to now have been nothing gets thru. Not a thing that they can not twist around with no need of logic or facts.
It is like arguing with a drunk. The harder you try to get through the less coherent and more angry they become.

They also see those who are being nice as weak I fear.

For in the end most I know talk big when in groups. Hence the reason they congregate with their flags hats banners and such. I learned a life lesson years ago when a youngster. When it looks as a fight was a possibility. The guy talking $hit, would be easy.

This cult needs to be dealt with out in the open. Exposed and shown for what they are.

[Yggdrasill]

Originally Posted by Oerets

My personal experiences up to now have been nothing gets thru. Not a thing that they can not twist around with no need of logic or facts.
It is like arguing with a drunk. The harder you try to get through the less coherent and more angry they become.

They also see those who are being nice as weak I fear.

For in the end most I know talk big when in groups. Hence the reason they congregate with their flags hats banners and such. I learned a life lesson years ago when a youngster. When it looks as a fight was a possibility. The guy talking $hit, would be easy.

This cult needs to be dealt with out in the open. Exposed and shown for what they are.

That has been my exact experience talking with LaRouche followers. Undoubtedly, some Trump supporters would be similar. But given how many people voted for him, I like to think that some are persuadable.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by Oerets

My personal experiences up to now have been nothing gets thru. Not a thing that they can not twist around with no need of logic or facts.
It is like arguing with a drunk. The harder you try to get through the less coherent and more angry they become.

This cult needs to be dealt with out in the open. Exposed and shown for what they are.

It's the genius of the GOP propaganda & brainwashing. Whatever facts and reason you present the drones have already been supplied with "alternative" facts and seemingly logical reasoning to respond with. The Reich-wing has so thoroughly demonized anything outside the conservative "bubble" that distrust is the reflex to anything other than what they've already been told. And they just keep on pouring the Kool-Aid