The Constitution has an answer for seditious members of Congress

[Chicks]

The Constitution has an answer for seditious members of Congress

https://theweek.com/articles/954673/...mbers-congress

...this lawsuit, even though it didn't succeed, is a flagrant attempt to overturn the constitutional system and impose through authoritarian means the rule of a corrupt criminal whose doltish incompetence has gotten hundreds of thousands of Americans killed. It is a "seditious abuse of the judicial process," as the states of Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin jointly wrote in their response to Texas trying to steal their elections.

The Constitution, as goofy and jerry-rigged as it is, stipulates that insurrectionists who violate their oath are not allowed to serve in Congress. Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment, written to exclude Confederate Civil War traitors, says that "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress … who … having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress … to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same[.]" How the Supreme Court ruled, or whether Republicans actually believe their lunatic claims, is irrelevant. It's still insurrection even if it doesn't work out.

Democrats would have every right, both under the Constitution and under the principle of popular sovereignty outlined in the Declaration of Independence, to convene a traitor-free Congress (also including similar acts committed by Republican senators like Lindsey Graham, David Perdue, Kelly Loeffler, and others), and pass such laws as would be necessary to preserve the American republic. That might include a national popular vote to decide the presidency, ironclad voting rights protections, a ban on gerrymandering either national or state district boundaries, full representation for the citizens of D.C. and Puerto Rico, regulations on internet platforms that are inflaming violent political extremism, a clear legal framework for the transfer of power that ends the lame duck period, and so on. States would be forced to agree to these measures before they can replace their traitorous representatives and senators. If the Supreme Court objects, more pro-democracy justices can be added.

It is virtually impossible to imagine the ancient, timid fossils that run the Democratic Party even considering this kind of thing (though remarkably, Rep. Bill Pascrell of New Jersey has) because it would require courage, vision, and honestly reckoning with the parlous state of the nation. It would not be illegal, but it would be a step beyond narrow legal proceduralism and into the uncharted waters of aggressive political innovation and raw will-to-power. It could conceivably touch off armed unrest in several states.

But it's not hard to see where the current conservative trajectory is headed. While elected Republicans have tried to overturn the election using increasingly blatant methods, top conservative pundits are mulling the idea of secession, as their treasonous fire-eater forebears did 160 years ago. The lie that Biden stole the election is now official GOP dogma. By the same token, it is not a coincidence that the Republican Party is ignoring the deadly pandemic (if not actively spreading the virus) while they try to overturn the Constitution. They feel they can safely ignore the welfare of the American people, because they are not accountable to them.

Unless this escalating conservative extremism halts from the inside somehow — which is not remotely in sight anywhere — this can only end eventually in a violent confrontation, or (much more likely) Democrats will simply give up and let themselves be defeated. Still, this country was founded by people who thought it was worth putting their lives at hazard to throw off tyrannical rule. Perhaps some of that spirit can once again be found.

[Chicks]

New Jersey Rep. Tells Nancy Pelosi Not to Seat 126 Republicans Who Backed 'Malignant' Texas Lawsuit

https://www.newsweek.com/new-jersey-...awsuit-1554307

Pascrell, a Democrat who represents New Jersey's 9th congressional district, invoked Reconstruction Era "safeguards to cleanse from our government ranks any traitors and others that would destroy the union."

This is precisely what needs to happen. Will it? Doubtful, sadly.

[RickeyM]

I agree 100%. The Republican party has been actively acting against the interest the American majority in favor of the privileged few. They need to be slapped down with prejudice. They need to pay a price for their seditious acts. It's obvious that they are intent on working against a Bidne presidency the will of the American people be damned.

[Oerets]

What we've got here is....... failure to communicate......

My guess about a third of the country agrees with the treason!


We are dealing with a cult and some serious deprogramming is called for.

[nailer]

After secession slavery will be reinstituted for all non-whites. This will not apply to Republicans.

FWIW, since I moved here in 1980, I've occaisionaly heard a crrtain kind of Texan threaten secession. Same as it ever was.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by Chicks

New Jersey Rep. Tells Nancy Pelosi Not to Seat 126 Republicans Who Backed 'Malignant' Texas Lawsuit

https://www.newsweek.com/new-jersey-...awsuit-1554307



This is precisely what needs to happen. Will it? Doubtful, sadly.

Sounds like you want real violence. Just like NI.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Chicks

The Constitution has an answer for seditious members of Congress

https://theweek.com/articles/954673/...mbers-congress

Uh, we Constitutionists don't get to ignore the constitution, just because the other side wants to. Can't have a revolution and expect to drag the red states along kicking and screaming. At this point I'd actually like it if the red states seceded like the Texas guy proposes. Then the Union can amend the constitution as desired in the proper way, without the red states making it impossible as they do now.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Chicks

New Jersey Rep. Tells Nancy Pelosi Not to Seat 126 Republicans Who Backed 'Malignant' Texas Lawsuit

https://www.newsweek.com/new-jersey-...awsuit-1554307

This is precisely what needs to happen. Will it? Doubtful, sadly.

Would be a terrible precedent. Every two years we'd have the majority party voting to kick out the minority en masse.

[Human]

The Onion Salutes these brave men and women:

https://politics.theonion.com/the-on...min-1845865496

[nailer]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Uh, we Constitutionists don't get to ignore the constitution, just because the other side wants to. Can't have a revolution and expect to drag the red states along kicking and screaming. At this point I'd actually like it if the red states seceded like the Texas guy proposes. Then the Union can amend the constitution as desired in the proper way, without the red states making it impossible as they do now.

Didn't know you moved.