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Old 07-28-2020, 09:01 PM
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This great article covers the whole thing from a different angle:

Street mobs and democrats
If we had emojis, the one that would describe this screed is :crazy.
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Old 07-28-2020, 09:19 PM
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The reason conservatives "own" the talk radio world is because it is a world of debating. And in the world of debating, solid arguments based on logic and strategic thinking with a solid grounding in history beat emotional responses every time.

As usual, you are hilarious! There is no "debate" in right-wing radio. It is demagoguery pure and simple. If a liberal does happen to get on the air, the host spends time demeaning that person and their inputs after the phone is hung up. That's not "debate". It's what I call it above. Newt's favorite attack word against liberals, but psychological projection bigtime.
The reason that right-wing talk radio is so popular is that, for some reason, right-wingers need constant feedback and approval, and they get it by spending many hours each day listening to talk radio, watching FOX, or looking for you tubes and articles that support their beliefs and tell them what to "think".
Liberals, on the other hand, are more confident of themselves intellectually such that they don't need that constant support. They can actually think for themselves instead of parroting the talking points of the day, the week, the year, or the decade.
Talking points like "liberals are emotional". Is outrage an emotion? I would think so. Right-wing media is geared to get their fans OUTRAGED! It's basically what they spend all their time doing. And given that it has been shown that the mass of right-wingers are often uneducated and thus open to propaganda, it means big bucks for those on radio and TV and elsewhere who can provoke that outrage on a daily basis.
We see a lot of that outrage in your posts here every day.
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Old 07-28-2020, 09:27 PM
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I've said for a long time that the primary debate tools of the left are:
Ad hominem attack
Projection
deflection

….Talk about projection! Those are the prime debate tactics of the right wing, including yourself.


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Or the constant accusations that conservatives are the ones that spew hate, even though when you watch a BLM, Antifa, "hands up, don't shoot" rally and juxtapose against a TEA party rally and you get the opposite opinion. Or the fascist Antifa calling the right "fascist.

Conservatives are the ones that spew hate. That is fact.
And you keep conflating BLM and Antifa when they are two totally different entities. You clearly do so because you want to project the violence of Antifa onto BLM so that you don't have to admit that BLM demonstrations, per se, are almost always peaceful.
And the Tea Party did not impress me. For the most part, they didn't seem to know what they were protesting. It was mostly just a way for senior citizen Republicans who didn't have much else to do to get together and do some generalizes complaining. No, it was not "also Democrats". It was REPUBLICAN politicians who showed up. It was signs for REPUBLICANS that they carried, and signs demeaning Obama and other Democrats. They seemed to have the debt and deficit in their sights, but then why no Tea Party protests when it was learned that the Trump/Republican tax cut for the wealthy elite was going to result in trillion dollar deficits for as far as the eye could see.
No, the Tea Party was just a way for bored senior citizens to have something to do. *YAWN*
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Old 08-25-2020, 07:19 PM
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The OP, of course, is loaded with a lie. Which brings up this little essay, seen on Facebook:
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Not my words but definitely reflects my thoughts:

Just a note for my right leaning family and friends from my left leaning self as we near voting day:
Just because we want equality for all doesn’t mean we want to take anything away from you.
They say we want to disband police departments (and that we hate the police): we don’t, that’s a lie. We want to weed out racism and unnecessary police brutality and for those who abuse their power to be held accountable.
They say we want to release all prisoners: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want to weed out racism and ensure the punishments match the crimes and to deprivatize prisons.
They say we want open borders: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want asylum seekers to be given their chance to seek asylum. We want to help people who are coming from unimaginable terror and poverty help to give them the chances we have. We want to ensure children aren’t separated from their parents and that nobody is kept in cages. But we do want proper vetting.
They say we want to take away your guns: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want logical gun owner support and follow up to reduce unnecessary deaths- by mass shootings or even accidents.
They say we want to wage a war on Christianity and Christian values: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want people of all religions to be able to practice and worship freely.
They say we want to get everything for free: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want to work hard and make sure that healthcare and education are affordable for all.
They say we want a war against traditional marriage: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want people of all sexual orientations to be able to love freely, no matter who you love.
They say we want to destroy or rewrite history: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want to recognize the ugly parts of our past and do everything we can to say “that’s not okay, let’s not honor those aggressors, let’s not let those things happen again”.
They say we want to take away your constitutional rights: we don’t, that’s a lie. We choose to believe science and wear masks and try to prevent the spread of this disease.
They say we hate America: we don’t, that’s a lie. We just recognize our faults and want us to do better, be better.
Stop with the us vs. them. Stop with the straw man arguments. Stop with the fake news. Our position is one of empathy, compassion and logic.
Stop believing the hype. Stop with the division. Just because we want equality for all doesn’t mean we want to take anything away from you.
(credit to Carol Orth Thank you Nurse Peggy McDaniel)
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Old 08-25-2020, 08:40 PM
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Trouble is the tRumpkins are brainwashed and believe every word of that to be lies. The good thing is that we outnumber them.
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Old 08-31-2020, 03:28 PM
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The reason conservatives "own" the talk radio world is because it is a world of debating. And in the world of debating, solid arguments based on logic and strategic thinking with a solid grounding in history beat emotional responses every time.

As usual, you are hilarious! There is no "debate" in right-wing radio.
Michael Medved would put leftist callers to the front of the line and let them go on as long as they wanted, for the most part. Many times they stayed even past the hour break. It's because he destroyed every single one of them, one by one. It was actually fairly entertaining.

Interestingly, I'm not even a fan of the guy. He was a staunch nevertrumper, but boy, did he slice up leftists in debate.

There is a reason the left is mostly the young. Most will grow out of it as their brain leaves the realm of mostly emotional thinking.
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Old 08-31-2020, 03:30 PM
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The OP, of course, is loaded with a lie. Which brings up this little essay, seen on Facebook:
------------------
Not my words but definitely reflects my thoughts:

Just a note for my right leaning family and friends from my left leaning self as we near voting day:
Just because we want equality for all doesn’t mean we want to take anything away from you.
They say we want to disband police departments (and that we hate the police): we don’t, that’s a lie. We want to weed out racism and unnecessary police brutality and for those who abuse their power to be held accountable.
They say we want to release all prisoners: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want to weed out racism and ensure the punishments match the crimes and to deprivatize prisons.
They say we want open borders: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want asylum seekers to be given their chance to seek asylum. We want to help people who are coming from unimaginable terror and poverty help to give them the chances we have. We want to ensure children aren’t separated from their parents and that nobody is kept in cages. But we do want proper vetting.
They say we want to take away your guns: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want logical gun owner support and follow up to reduce unnecessary deaths- by mass shootings or even accidents.
They say we want to wage a war on Christianity and Christian values: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want people of all religions to be able to practice and worship freely.
They say we want to get everything for free: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want to work hard and make sure that healthcare and education are affordable for all.
They say we want a war against traditional marriage: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want people of all sexual orientations to be able to love freely, no matter who you love.
They say we want to destroy or rewrite history: we don’t, that’s a lie. We want to recognize the ugly parts of our past and do everything we can to say “that’s not okay, let’s not honor those aggressors, let’s not let those things happen again”.
They say we want to take away your constitutional rights: we don’t, that’s a lie. We choose to believe science and wear masks and try to prevent the spread of this disease.
They say we hate America: we don’t, that’s a lie. We just recognize our faults and want us to do better, be better.
Stop with the us vs. them. Stop with the straw man arguments. Stop with the fake news. Our position is one of empathy, compassion and logic.
Stop believing the hype. Stop with the division. Just because we want equality for all doesn’t mean we want to take anything away from you.
(credit to Carol Orth Thank you Nurse Peggy McDaniel)
Wowsers. And I thought Trump was a liar. What do you think "defund the police" actually means? If what you say is actually true, the left is terrible at getting their message out.
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Old 08-31-2020, 03:32 PM
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Trouble is the tRumpkins are brainwashed and believe every word of that to be lies. The good thing is that we outnumber them.
First sentence is projection. The second is delusion.

You do outnumber them in the riots and looting, but that is about it. Ever heard the phrase, "silent majority"? One of the things that make them silent is that they don't tend to riot, loot, or even protest. They try to get their point across at the voting booth.
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Old 08-31-2020, 03:36 PM
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I've said for a long time that the primary debate tools of the left are:
Ad hominem attack
Projection
deflection

….Talk about projection! Those are the prime debate tactics of the right wing, including yourself.
I know you are, but what am I?

Sorry, but I came up with that list when I was on a site where leftists were all over those three. Eventually, the site changed their rules where you could be banned for ad-hominem attacks. One by one, the leftists were banned in large numbers. It's still mostly leftists (musician site), but the leftist herd was seriously culled. Only one guy on the right was banned. Truth be told, he always seemed to espouse conservative thought, but in a "lockstep" fashion. That is, I often wondered if he was really a leftist pretending to be a conservative. But they banned him too.
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Old 08-31-2020, 07:36 PM
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Are Leftists Literally Addicted to Hatred?
I have noticed that there is a Russian or two in every political board on the net now.
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