Biden as a centrist

[watsup1000]

I am thinking that it would be nice to have Biden as president because he is rather a centrist, and that is exactly what the nation needs at this point: someone to try to bring people together. There are plenty of extremists both right and left these days, but also lots and lots of "middle of the road" Americans who would love to see someone to start a dialogue between reasonable people of both sides.
Biden grew up in politics for a couple of decades when, indeed, Democrats and Republicans had different policy goals but still remained friends with the other side and could have a meal with them and discuss policy items in a pleasant manner. That's where he comes from, that's where his political traits lie. Bring people together. Try to solve problems without calling the other side names. Be pleasant to the other side in spite of policy differences.
Wouldn't that be nice? And it would probably get things done that the American people want.

[FordGT90]

He is not centrist:
https://joebiden.com/joes-vision/

Reading through his list, I see trillions (plural for a reason) of dollars worth of proposals and no way to pay for them.

For example, he wants to put Bidencare on top of Obamacare by creating another insurance company (besides CMS) that people can buy insurance from. It's not far removed from universal health care the liberals are pushing. Just different in name only, really.

Another example is what he wants to do in regards to guns. He wants to let people sue gun manufacturers. That's like suing GE because some idiot got sucked into the intake of a running jet engine. No, no one sued GE because of that. Limiting "high capacity magazines" is a non-starter because anyone that used a firearm in a self-defense situation knows regular capacity is hardly enough. He wants to create a registry of property for sales made decades ago; another non-starter. He wants to create a buy back program like Australia did; Biden loves spending money that isn't his. Oh, and best one? Literally limit people's right to firearm property by limiting the number they can own; a direct violation of the 2nd amendment and 4th amendment. I'm only 15% down the page too! These proposals are downright draconian, not centrist at all.


Trump is more centrist than Biden. Remember, Trump was a Democrat until the party went far left (two examples of that above).

[donquixote99]

Sure, Trump's a centrist. He believes he's God. Can't hardly get more centrist than that.

[Not Insane]

In all sincerity, I consider Biden to be a cardboard cut out propped up by his "handlers" to run against trump. He's the worst candidate in history to run for president and I actually pity him. I think he is being used.

But the bottom line is that I always chuckle when ANYONE even goes there - regarding what Biden believes. He's a placeholder for the D's and nothing more. What he believes or says is completely irrelevant. They are just praying to whatever demon they worship that enough people will vote AGAINST trump for whoever they prop up - and today that would be Biden. If only AOC was old enough.

[FordGT90]

Originally Posted by Not Insane

In all sincerity, I consider Biden to be a cardboard cut out propped up by his "handlers" to run against trump.

That was an open question mark on my brain while I looked at that page. Are these all really his proposals or are they the result of the political machine attempting to justify itself. I don't know and I think a lot of that has to do with how little media exposure Biden has had. It really reminds me of Clinton in 2016 but she didn't have an excuse like Biden does. It's disconcerting.

Originally Posted by Not Insane

He's the worst candidate in history to run for president and I actually pity him.

I wouldn't say that because Hillary Clinton was far worse.

Originally Posted by Not Insane

If only AOC was old enough.

Ha!

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by FordGT90

I wouldn't say that because Hillary Clinton was far worse.

Well, I both agree and disagree. It depends on the metric. I consider him the worst because he is not firing on all cylinders. I'm ignoring his lack of accomplishment in his career and just focusing on who he is now. He is an old man who has lost his cognitive ability. If he was a "normal" american he would be in a retirement home, mumbling to anyone who would listen about past stuff. It's obvious his brain is done being productive other than keeping his organs functioning.

Hillary is the worst in the same way I saw her as worse than her husband when he was president. Bill basically just wanted to get laid and would come to actual agreements with the republicans. It's how we got welfare reform. Hillary has an actual agenda (and I think it's terrifying) and is ruthless.

So the only question is, what is the agenda and ruthlessness of the people behind Biden. For starters, they are ruthless enough to prop him up as their face. And if that face is better than the real face, this could be even more terrifying than Hillary.

[FordGT90]

Originally Posted by Not Insane

Well, I both agree and disagree. It depends on the metric. I consider him the worst because he is not firing on all cylinders. I'm ignoring his lack of accomplishment in his career and just focusing on who he is now. He is an old man who has lost his cognitive ability. If he was a "normal" american he would be in a retirement home, mumbling to anyone who would listen about past stuff. It's obvious his brain is done being productive other than keeping his organs functioning.

Trump (74), Clinton (72), and Biden (77) are about the same age.

Originally Posted by Not Insane

So the only question is, what is the agenda and ruthlessness of the people behind Biden. For starters, they are ruthless enough to prop him up as their face. And if that face is better than the real face, this could be even more terrifying than Hillary.

Pretty sure it's the same people behind Biden that were behind Clinton. Establishment Democrat: the superdelegates.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by watsup1000

I am thinking that it would be nice to have Biden as president because he is rather a centrist, and that is exactly what the nation needs at this point: someone to try to bring people together. There are plenty of extremists both right and left these days, but also lots and lots of "middle of the road" Americans who would love to see someone to start a dialogue between reasonable people of both sides.
Biden grew up in politics for a couple of decades when, indeed, Democrats and Republicans had different policy goals but still remained friends with the other side and could have a meal with them and discuss policy items in a pleasant manner. That's where he comes from, that's where his political traits lie. Bring people together. Try to solve problems without calling the other side names. Be pleasant to the other side in spite of policy differences.
Wouldn't that be nice? And it would probably get things done that the American people want.

He could stand on a corner of 5th Ave. and shoot someone and if the other candidate was tRump I'd still vote for Biden. Just kidding, Joe would never do or even say something like that. Bunkerboy on the other hand...

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by FordGT90

Trump (74), Clinton (72), and Biden (77) are about the same age.


Pretty sure it's the same people behind Biden that were behind Clinton. Establishment Democrat: the superdelegates.

But I believe many Establishment Republicans also support Biden.
They are many repubs who are anxious to get rid of Trump. They view him as an hijacker, an usurper. They loathe him.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by FordGT90

Trump (74), Clinton (72), and Biden (77) are about the same age.
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Originally Posted by Not Insane View Post
So the only question is, what is the agenda and ruthlessness of the people behind Biden. For starters, they are ruthless enough to prop him up as their face. And if that face is better than the real face, this could be even more terrifying than Hillary.

Pretty sure it's the same people behind Biden that were behind Clinton. Establishment Democrat: the superdelegates.

Tough luck bucko (NI) you guys just don't have the same amount of time to slander, defame, demonize and character assassinate Biden as you did with Hillary. Besides, the alternative to Biden is tRump and only the hard-core faithful are in his pocket.

FordGT90 as I said to Insane, the alternative is tRump.