Confidential to Judge Sullivan

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by Not Insane

Read the actual information from the government. I watched the hearings.

I see your opinion as CNN soaked. Opinion pieces are good, provided there is plenty of raw information included in these pieces. But even then, they can pick and choose facts to bolster their case.

You can run around NYC with a camera and make it look like the most beautiful place on earth - or make it look straight out of the pit of hell. That is really all the modern "news" is doing. Picking their facts to match their message.

But an intelligent and thoughtful person can see both photo essays and actually reach a reasonably accurate perspective on just "how" good and bad the city is. Trump has become the "hate trump all the time" channel. I know, I watch their youtube feed. Fox is actually a little more fair, though they are far more positive about him.

The funny thing is that it may just be because there is a lot more that is beautiful about this presidency than ugly. Compare a few broadcasts of Don Lemmon to a few broadcasts of Laura Ingraham and get back with me on your perspective regarding the quality of their analysis. And I mean OFFICIAL CNN and FOX sourced. Not the "analysis of the analyst" videos. That's the kind of work it takes to even have a valid opinion on this. If you haven't watched a lot of videos from both, you don't know what you're talking about.

Nice ad hom.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Not Insane

Read the actual information from the government. I watched the hearings.

I see your opinion as CNN soaked. Opinion pieces are good, provided there is plenty of raw information included in these pieces. But even then, they can pick and choose facts to bolster their case.

You can run around NYC with a camera and make it look like the most beautiful place on earth - or make it look straight out of the pit of hell. That is really all the modern "news" is doing. Picking their facts to match their message.

But an intelligent and thoughtful person can see both photo essays and actually reach a reasonably accurate perspective on just "how" good and bad the city is. Trump has become the "hate trump all the time" channel. I know, I watch their youtube feed. Fox is actually a little more fair, though they are far more positive about him.

The funny thing is that it may just be because there is a lot more that is beautiful about this presidency than ugly. Compare a few broadcasts of Don Lemmon to a few broadcasts of Laura Ingraham and get back with me on your perspective regarding the quality of their analysis. And I mean OFFICIAL CNN and FOX sourced. Not the "analysis of the analyst" videos. That's the kind of work it takes to even have a valid opinion on this. If you haven't watched a lot of videos from both, you don't know what you're talking about.

Your post is all opinion, plumping the sources you want people to follow.

"There is a lot more that is beautiful about this presidency that is ugly" is such a whopper. But you claim there are facts to back up your "beautiful" opinion? Let's have some. You said it, now back it up. Give us a post with real substance.

"More than" describes a plurality. Please detail three "beautiful" things about the Trump presidency. Use concrete and verifiable facts.

Earn your pay.

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Nice ad hom.

Against whom? Who did I attack?

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Your post is all opinion, plumping the sources you want people to follow.

"There is a lot more that is beautiful about this presidency that is ugly" is such a whopper. But you claim there are facts to back up your "beautiful" opinion? Let's have some. You said it, now back it up. Give us a post with real substance.

"More than" describes a plurality. Please detail three "beautiful" things about the Trump presidency. Use concrete and verifiable facts.

Earn your pay.

Opinions vary. But at least you and I are willing to do more than just make a blanket statement. We support our position with either facts or some explanation of our reasoning.

It also speaks to why that female trump supporter, when asked by NPR why she supported Trump after his "grab 'em by the..." revelation said, "I'm voting for president, not husband."

Jimmy carter was, apparently, a very nice man, but a lousy president. We don't elect presidents because they are nice. We elect them because they can do the job. And we don't elect pastors for president for a reason.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Not Insane

Opinions vary. But at least you and I are willing to do more than just make a blanket statement. We support our position with either facts or some explanation of our reasoning.

It also speaks to why that female trump supporter, when asked by NPR why she supported Trump after his "grab 'em by the..." revelation said, "I'm voting for president, not husband."

Jimmy carter was, apparently, a very nice man, but a lousy president. We don't elect presidents because they are nice. We elect them because they can do the job. And we don't elect pastors for president for a reason.

What do you mean, 'we?' No where do I see any mention of specifics behind your blanket statement about the 'beautiful' Trump administration. I see no facts supporting such an evaluation. I just see another empty 'pretending to debate' post.

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

What do you mean, 'we?' No where do I see any mention of specifics behind your blanket statement about the 'beautiful' Trump administration. I see no facts supporting such an evaluation. I just see another empty 'pretending to debate' post.

Funny, I thought I was being kind to you. Apparently you simply are not seeing it in my posts. And that's ok.

Some are a few sentences, some are paragraphs, and some include links. But the only time I don't really support my opinion is when I'm responding in like kind.

That's my MO and has been for two decades.

[donquixote99]

I recognize any 'kindness' from you as yet more disingenuous tactics.

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

I recognize any 'kindness' from you as yet more disingenuous tactics.

Yeah. Back at ya.

One by one, so many posters here get outed. I noticed you consider a link that does not fit your narrative to be a time waster. There are some thinkers on this site, but many that think they are are merely the self appointed big fish in a very small pond.

I'm now understanding why young leftists post with such hubris on this site. Most throw out a few posts that disagree, get the kinds of responses I see from you, Chicks and a couple of others, and roll their eyes and move on. My skin is a bit thicker.

Refusing to expose yourself to information and links that may disagree with your public school infused world view does not cause others to take you seriously. You have not won. Others have simply realized you are not worth arguing with at this particular time in your (and their) life.

My skin is a bit thicker and there are those worth engaging here.

And yes, that was against the man (ad hominem). Grow up, Peter Pan. Adults see you for who you are, regardless of how old you are chronologically.

I'll continue to engage those that don't constantly threaten to ignore because they don't like the information I share. If you don't like it, quit responding. It's really that simple.

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by Not Insane

Opinions vary. But at least you and I are willing to do more than just make a blanket statement. We support our position with either facts or some explanation of our reasoning.

It also speaks to why that female trump supporter, when asked by NPR why she supported Trump after his "grab 'em by the..." revelation said, "I'm voting for president, not husband."

Jimmy carter was, apparently, a very nice man, but a lousy president. We don't elect presidents because they are nice. We elect them because they can do the job. And we don't elect pastors for president for a reason.

https://www.salon.com/2020/03/10/the...ot-cant-do-it/

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by Pio1980

https://www.salon.com/2020/03/10/the...ot-cant-do-it/

When the results were in, in 2016, I said to my wife, The good news is that Hillary lost. The bad news is that Trump won.

Then he started doing things. I now see him as the greatest president in my 66 years, though some nitwit at Salon may disagree.

I don't just think he can do it. I think he's killin' it.