Confidential to Judge Sullivan

[Chicks]

Originally Posted by Waggs098

A little reading.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj...lea-1525640861

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/mich...-gregg-jarrett

Don't even have to read those, the URL's tell the story. Worthless "opinion" (propaganda) pieces from the same source - Rupert Murdoch.

[Waggs098]

Originally Posted by Chicks

Don't even have to read those, the URL's tell the story. Worthless "opinion" (propaganda) pieces from the same source - Rupert Murdoch.

I figured YOU wouldn't read them based on the source. Some others might though.

The articles point out some reasons he plead guilty to begin with. I wouldn't call that worthless opinions.

[Mark B]

Originally Posted by Waggs098

I figured YOU wouldn't read them based on the source. Some others might though.

The articles point out some reasons he plead guilty to begin with. I wouldn't call that worthless opinions.

You simply refuse to accept the facts. Flynn is guilty and admitted to it.

[Waggs098]

Originally Posted by Mark B

You simply refuse to accept the facts. Flynn is guilty and admitted to it.

Then why has his case come back up? Why has the DOJ said to throw the case out?

Did you read the articles I posted?

[Mark B]

Originally Posted by Waggs098

Then why has his case come back up? Why has the DOJ said to throw the case out?

Did you read the articles I posted?

It's quite simple. DOJ is corruptly doing the bidding of Trump.

I read the articles. They're opinion pieces, and don't change the facts.

[Chicks]

Originally Posted by Waggs098

Then why has his case come back up? Why has the DOJ said to throw the case out?

Because Billy Barr is completely and utterly corrupt.

[RickeyM]

Let me see if I can help you out in case the two previous replies are too brief to grasp.
#1 Despite what Billy & Donny say the Mueller Report does not exonerate tRump.
#2 Flynn's conviction points to collusion (either real or attempted).
#3 Getting that conviction thrown out lets Donny further pretend that he was illegally investigated.
#4 Donny would really like the Mueller Report to go away.
#5 If he can say he was illegally investigated the Democrats can't use the Mueller report and his impeachment against him come campaign time.

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

Let me see if I can help you out in case the two previous replies are too brief to grasp.
#1 Despite what Billy & Donny say the Mueller Report does not exonerate tRump.
#2 Flynn's conviction points to collusion (either real or attempted).
#3 Getting that conviction thrown out lets Donny further pretend that he was illegally investigated.
#4 Donny would really like the Mueller Report to go away.
#5 If he can say he was illegally investigated the Democrats can't use the Mueller report and his impeachment against him come campaign time.

That's a nice list of opinions you have there. Let me retort:

Opinions vary. Thanks so much for sharing yours.

Let me throw out my own for those five points:
1. The Mueller report's job was never to exonerate Trump. It also didn't tell us how often he and his wife have sex because that is also not its function. That's a straw man.
2. The evidence is pretty clear regarding what Flynn's conviction based on a plea dealed confession. And it may point to collusion when Barr and Durham are done. And it just may be those investigating Flynn that find themselves in hot water.
3. Getting that conviction thrown out is, in my opinion, the first (and least negative) of many bad news events for those that tried to railroad Flynn.
4. The Mueller report, I believe, will be a major campaign issue FOR trump in the last few months of the campaign.
5. He's not just saying he was illegally investigated. If you pull your head out of the CNN sand you will see that the DOJ is actively investigating those responsible for the fake investigation. I suspect this will get very interesting before the election when Barr and Durham finish up.

Of course, opinions vary, but I've pulled my information from many sources quoting the government sources doing the investigating. I've also read th court's instructions to Sullivan. This was, for all intents and purposes, an attempted coup. And I don't base that on some analysis at some conservative site. I base that on the actual information coming out of the investigations as well as the farce of an impeachment we all had the opportunity to watch, but apparently only I actually did.

It's actually pretty cut and dried, based on the information I'm seeing. Of course, I don't get all my info from The View.

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by Mark B

It's quite simple. DOJ is corruptly doing the bidding of Trump.

I read the articles. They're opinion pieces, and don't change the facts.

Read the actual information from the government. I watched the hearings.

I see your opinion as CNN soaked. Opinion pieces are good, provided there is plenty of raw information included in these pieces. But even then, they can pick and choose facts to bolster their case.

You can run around NYC with a camera and make it look like the most beautiful place on earth - or make it look straight out of the pit of hell. That is really all the modern "news" is doing. Picking their facts to match their message.

But an intelligent and thoughtful person can see both photo essays and actually reach a reasonably accurate perspective on just "how" good and bad the city is. CNN has become the "hate trump all the time" channel. I know, I watch their youtube feed. Fox is actually a little more fair, though they are far more positive about him.

The funny thing is that it may just be because there is a lot more that is beautiful about this presidency than ugly. Compare a few broadcasts of Don Lemmon to a few broadcasts of Laura Ingraham and get back with me on your perspective regarding the quality of their analysis. And I mean OFFICIAL CNN and FOX sourced. Not the "analysis of the analyst" videos. That's the kind of work it takes to even have a valid opinion on this. If you haven't watched a lot of videos from both, you don't know what you're talking about.

[Not Insane]

Originally Posted by Chicks

Because Billy Barr is completely and utterly corrupt.

Opinions vary. Thanks so much for sharing yours.