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Old 08-07-2009, 08:28 AM
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I'll be honest enough to say that I don't want anything run by the government on my behalf. It doesn't matter WHO dreamt up the bill with all of it's intricate details that only lawyers could decipher, I'm not interested.

The only way I'd sing onto any of these bills is if, like Charles said, EVERYONE was to be covered. No specials for Congress, Senators, House members, or the President and his family.
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Old 08-07-2009, 11:09 AM
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Whoa Nelly, wait just a minute. First you say there is no reason to be scared of change then turn around and say that "I am not blind to why so many are turning away and why."

Which is it? You can't have it both ways. Either you're not scared of the unknown change and support this bill OR you're scared and don't.
No need to stop Nelly, I do not support any health care bill at present but not out of fear. Most people who in earnest do not support the current bills do not out of needless fear inspired by the GOP/Fox.

Don't know what you mean by I can't have it both ways?
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Old 08-07-2009, 07:57 PM
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I do not support any health care bill at present but not out of fear. Most people who in earnest do not support the current bills do not out of needless fear inspired by the GOP
What? You do not support any health care bill at present...but do not out of fear? Yet JUDGE those who also do not support it as needless fear?
Perhaps you could tell us in advance how it's going to turn out?
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Old 08-08-2009, 06:54 AM
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What? You do not support any health care bill at present...but do not out of fear? Yet JUDGE those who also do not support it as needless fear?
Perhaps you could tell us in advance how it's going to turn out?
First I judge no one. Judging is strictly for the radical right who somehow are endowed with a brilliance to know that living in the 1800s is what is best for everyone.

Now, I suspect 90% of the opponents of health care base there lack of support on fear of a government run heath care system. I think this is sad as we currently have Medicare which is a tremendous success.

How what will what turn out?
The debate?
The program if passed?
I don't know as I cannot tell the future.
I will say that this is the wrong time for this and that the what this debate has showed is that as long as the GOP exists in the form it is today American will not advance.
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Old 08-08-2009, 01:56 PM
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First I judge no one. Judging is strictly for the radical right who somehow are endowed with a brilliance to know that living in the 1800s is what is best for everyone.

I don't think your argument supports your premise.

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Old 08-08-2009, 03:58 PM
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I made no argument, I simply posted some facts and asked a bunch of questions.
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Old 08-08-2009, 04:21 PM
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I made no argument, I simply posted some facts and asked a bunch of questions.
Go back and read your origional statement. Look pretty judgmental to me.

Opinions and facts are not the same.

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Old 08-08-2009, 07:39 PM
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Go back and read your origional statement. Look pretty judgmental to me.

Opinions and facts are not the same.

Chas
Chas, I don't know what you are referring to.
highlight it and ask me your question and I will respond.
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Old 08-08-2009, 08:59 PM
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First I judge no one. Judging is strictly for the radical right who somehow are endowed with a brilliance to know that living in the 1800s is what is best for everyone.

Go easy on me, highlighting and things of this nature using a computer are foreign to me.

Your first sentence says that you judge no one.

Your second sentence not only sounds judgmental to me, but biased as well. At best ,it is strictly opinion. Perhaps even snide.

Hell, I went to skool, for awhile. I was even a philosophy major...shows just how clueless I was when I was young.

Now, I want everyone to have a laugh at my expense...I certainly deserve it.

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Old 08-09-2009, 05:34 AM
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First I judge no one. Judging is strictly for the radical right who somehow are endowed with a brilliance to know that living in the 1800s is what is best for everyone.

Go easy on me, highlighting and things of this nature using a computer are foreign to me.

Your first sentence says that you judge no one.

Your second sentence not only sounds judgmental to me, but biased as well. At best ,it is strictly opinion. Perhaps even snide.

Hell, I went to skool, for awhile. I was even a philosophy major...shows just how clueless I was when I was young.

Now, I want everyone to have a laugh at my expense...I certainly deserve it.

Chas
psych was my early "major...shows how clueless I was " wound up with a degree in Economic/Finance

oh yeah about my post, I don't see pointing out a truth to be judgmental, I guess it depends how you look at it
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