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Old 12-03-2017, 04:33 PM
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That article is over 8 months old. Even in a slow moving investigation like this one the article cannot be considered up to date. Although I've seen nothing to date tying Donald Trump and the Russians in a steal the presidency conspiracy.
Then why did Kushner, Junior, Sessions, Flynn and possibly Pence all lie about their dealings with Russia?
Trump of course lives to lie, so best ignored.
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Old 12-03-2017, 05:12 PM
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That article is over 8 months old. Even in a slow moving investigation like this one the article cannot be considered up to date. Although I've seen nothing to date tying Donald Trump and the Russians in a steal the presidency conspiracy.
The Trump Tower meeting, Junior's running dialogue with Assange as well as KT McFarland's email help paint a picture to those who wish to see it.
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Old 12-03-2017, 06:11 PM
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It is a little amusing the contortions the left is going through trying to explain how in the hell they could have lost to Donald Trump other than just having a fucked up candidate.

I love it.
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Old 12-03-2017, 08:19 PM
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It is a little amusing the contortions the left is going through trying to explain how in the hell they could have lost to Donald Trump other than just having a fucked up candidate.

I love it.
Of course you love it, zero. It easily explains away that your party is in bed treasonously with our longstanding geo-political foes, the Russians.
Simple minds love simple excuses.
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Old 12-03-2017, 08:34 PM
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It is a little amusing the contortions the left is going through trying to explain how in the hell they could have lost to Donald Trump other than just having a fucked up candidate.

I love it.
Actually, the contortions are by you and yours trying to look past the myriad lies and sordid evidence associated with Trump and Russia. Trump has publicly proclaimed many times that nobody on his campaign spoke with Russians. Nine people did and lied about it.
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Old 12-04-2017, 06:42 AM
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Trump lawyer John Dowd said -

"The President cannot obstruct justice because he is the chief law enforcement officer under [the Constitution's Article II] and has every right to express his view of any case."

It seems to me that this represents a tacit admission of obstruction of justice in the same vein as "Even if he did collude, collusion isn't a crime" is an admission of "collusion."

Trump's legal team is clearly setting the stage to say the president cannot be charged with any of the core crimes discussed in the Russia probe: collusion and obstruction. Presumably, you wouldn't preemptively make these arguments unless you felt there was a chance charges are coming.

https://www.axios.com/exclusive-trum...514742663.html
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Old 12-04-2017, 07:25 AM
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I am the chief driving officer of my car, but I am still responsible for how I drive it. Saying Trump is the chief law enforcement officer does not imply he is immune and unaccountable for how he does it.
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Old 12-04-2017, 08:23 AM
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The Trump Tower meeting, Junior's running dialogue with Assange as well as KT McFarland's email help paint a picture to those who wish to see it.
If wishes were horses beggars would ride. I'll maintain an eyes wide open believe half of what I see and none of what I hear attitude toward all things political.
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Old 12-04-2017, 08:40 AM
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Trump lawyer John Dowd said -

"The President cannot obstruct justice because he is the chief law enforcement officer under [the Constitution's Article II] and has every right to express his view of any case."

It seems to me that this represents a tacit admission of obstruction of justice in the same vein as "Even if he did collude, collusion isn't a crime" is an admission of "collusion."

Trump's legal team is clearly setting the stage to say the president cannot be charged with any of the core crimes discussed in the Russia probe: collusion and obstruction. Presumably, you wouldn't preemptively make these arguments unless you felt there was a chance charges are coming.

https://www.axios.com/exclusive-trum...514742663.html
It's seems to me your argument is circular.

Regarding the bolded text. With the levels of paranoia Trump displays this would be true regardless of what he actually did or didn't do making this a fan the fire presumption.
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Old 12-04-2017, 08:48 AM
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