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10-31-2017, 10:26 AM
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I had to turn on Fox entertainment this morning to hear how they were spinning this.
It was hilarious!!
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10-31-2017, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
Paying an American research firm to continue its investigations into Trump's shady history (started at the behest of the Rubio campaign), including his campaign's collusion with Russia, is itself collusion? Who knew?
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Didn't say that, did I? There you go again.
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As for Pop simply burnishing his credentials, why was that necessary? He was already mentioned as an excellent guy by Trump a few weeks earlier and was given a seat at the table at a national security meeting in a photo posted by the Trump campaign.
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You're busy speculating. Please fill in your own blanks. You usually do.
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10-31-2017, 10:39 AM
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Didn't say that, did I? There you go again.
You're busy speculating. Please fill in your own blanks. You usually do. 
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Yes, you said that. And no, what I asserted is not speculation. It is fact, something you seem to know little about with all your squawking about fake news.
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10-31-2017, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
Yes, you said that. And no, what I asserted is not speculation. It is fact, something you seem to know little about with all your squawking about fake news.
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Fine, smart ass. Please point me exactly to where I stated specifically that building a portfolio of opposition research data ("the dossier"), or what George P was or wasn't doing, was "collusion" of any sort.
Not only are you factually challenged, you apparently read things that aren't there either.
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10-31-2017, 11:29 AM
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Good thing Dramamine is OTC these days, Whell is going to need a lot of it.
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10-31-2017, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
Yet, long ago you started a "fake news" thread to discredit reports (unfavorable to your Dear Leader) that have proven to be true. Moreover, you continue to peddle Trump's diversionary fictions about Hillary and Obama.
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The endless speculation without much factual basis that's going on in the news this week underscores that much of this "news" is questionable.
Example:
https://apnews.com/44fba4013440464ea...o-Trump,-aides
You've got to dig pretty deep in this AP story to find out that George P didn't cop a plea to anything more than making false statements to the FBI - and we don't know the specifics of those statements - and didn't cop a plea to anything do with "collusion". Yet, the headline blares that the plea deal is a "warning" to Trump and his aids. Really?
You also have to dig even deeper to find this:
Previous emails obtained by The Associated Press show Papadopoulos discussing his attempts to line up a meeting between Trump and the Russian government. The emails showed that Manafort and Gates, who were top officials in the campaign at the time, rebuffed those efforts.
So, if this is all about conspiracy between the Trump campaign and the Russians, and George P was offering his assistance as a conduit, but evidence shows that his offer was "rebuffed", where's the collusion?
Then, the article claims that the White House was "scrambling" to contain "the fallout". A scheduled press conference is "scrambling? Oh, the hyperbole!
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10-31-2017, 11:34 AM
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So what's up with Flynn? Nothing yesterday, maybe his is colluding with Mueller?
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10-31-2017, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
Fine, smart ass. Please point me exactly to where I stated specifically that building a portfolio of opposition research data ("the dossier"), or what George P was or wasn't doing, was "collusion" of any sort.
Not only are you factually challenged, you apparently read things that aren't there either.
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He might just be reading between the lines.
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10-31-2017, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by barbara
I had to turn on Fox entertainment this morning to hear how they were spinning this.
It was hilarious!!
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Hilarious here too with whell's contortions.
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10-31-2017, 12:29 PM
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So what's up with Flynn? Nothing yesterday, maybe his is colluding with Mueller? 
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Perhaps Papadopoulos was just the Hors d'oeuvre and Flynn is being roasted for the first course with some whine.
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