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Old 08-17-2017, 10:40 AM
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Well, you would think from this monument business that blacks in the North would be overwhelmingly prosperous compared to the South.
WTF do Confederate monuments have to do with prosperity?
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Old 08-17-2017, 10:42 AM
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You're an undulating flow of old mucus...
Coming from a morally obtuse Trump apologist, I'll take that as a compliment.
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Old 08-17-2017, 10:44 AM
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Maybe you should suggest that to LaQuan McDonald's family or James Byrd Jr's family...and find out if they think you're an idiot, an asshole, or a racist...or maybe all three.
The point I was making is that it has been much , much worse in the past.

If you don't think that is the case you are simply stupid.
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WTF do Confederate monuments have to do with prosperity?
That's what I want to know.


And, why is the plight of Blacks no better, likely worse in the North.
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Old 08-17-2017, 10:51 AM
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Coming from a morally obtuse Trump apologist, I'll take that as a compliment.
I'm sure you would. Too bad it doesn't cure you of the errors that you continuously make by assuming your air of moral and intellectual superiority.
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Old 08-17-2017, 10:52 AM
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And, why is the plight of Blacks no better, likely worse in the North.
For the very same reason that the fortunes of whites in the north's Rust Belt sucks.
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Old 08-17-2017, 10:54 AM
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Indeed. In many of the back hollows of Appalachia, strangers are often viewed with a great deal of apprehension and suspicion. The worst part of Appalachia in this regard is southwestern West Virginia and southeastern Kentucky. I've spent considerable time there consulting on flood protection projects and it can be a tad hostile at times.
Now, think about how this 'hospitality" might have been 150 years ago, and how it might have influenced the mindset of Southerners when thinking about Northerners and the Union Army. Then try to tell me that the "only thing on their minds was preserving the institution of slavery", when most of them likely didn't own slaves.
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Old 08-17-2017, 11:00 AM
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Now, think about how this 'hospitality" might have been 150 years ago, and how it might have influenced the mindset of Southerners when thinking about Northerners and the Union Army. Then try to tell me that the "only thing on their minds was preserving the institution of slavery", when most of them likely didn't own slaves.
That's was definitely the reason for Southern leaders and plantation owners and they succeeded in getting poor Scots-Irish hillbillies to fight their battles, just as Trump is using them for his own purposes now. Just ask Steve Bannon (who recently admitted as much).
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Old 08-17-2017, 11:01 AM
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The point I was making is that it has been much , much worse in the past.

If you don't think that is the case you are simply stupid.
I made no comparison between the frequency or severity of the treatment of black Americans of any particular period of time dickweed. That belongs to you. But since you brought it up...in the main, the treatment of black Americans by white Americans right now in this country is despicable. I leave it to ridiculous nazi pigs like you and whell to attempt to minimize it.

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Old 08-17-2017, 11:11 AM
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That's was definitely the reason for Southern leaders and plantation owners and they succeeded in getting poor Scots-Irish hillbillies to fight their battles, just as Trump is using them for his own purposes now. Just ask Steve Bannon (who recently admitted as much).
The South's leaders were indeed planters. In the few cases where they weren't, they were certainly members of the South's planter aristocracy.
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