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Old 08-16-2017, 08:09 PM
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Lee was dead before the Lost Cause myth was born. You could say the historical revision began with his death.
The Lost Cause started when the first shell fell on Fort Sumter in Charleston Bay, mon capitaine.

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Old 08-16-2017, 08:32 PM
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The Lost Cause started when the first shell fell on Fort Sumter in Charleston Bay, mon capitaine.
That's when the Civil War began, private.

Check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_C...he_Confederacy
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Old 08-16-2017, 08:35 PM
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They don't bother me or you. They bother our black fellow citizens. After what the country has put them through, their desire to remove vestiges of the Jim Crow and Civil Rights eras is fully understandable.
It's the vestiges of slavery that are being removed.
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Old 08-16-2017, 08:44 PM
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It's the vestiges of slavery that are being removed.
Yes and no. Most of the statues were indeed erected during the Jim Crow and Civil Rights eras, but both eras were vestiges of slavery.
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Old 08-16-2017, 08:45 PM
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That's when the Civil War began, private.

Check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_C...he_Confederacy
More studied obtuseness from Cap'n Obvious. Sad.
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Old 08-16-2017, 08:56 PM
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Yes and no. Most of the statues were indeed erected during the Jim Crow and Civil Rights eras, but both eras were vestiges of slavery.
It is indeed good to see you agreeing with yourself and me. Yes and Yes.
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Old 08-16-2017, 09:00 PM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost...he_Confederacy
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Old 08-16-2017, 09:20 PM
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They don't bother me or you. They bother our black fellow citizens. After what the country has put them through, their desire to remove vestiges of the Jim Crow and Civil Rights eras is fully understandable.


I'm sure they sat around all the time thinking that Confederate statue really bothers me.
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Old 08-16-2017, 09:29 PM
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I'm sure they sat around all the time thinking that Confederate statue really bothers me.
Why do you care how they came to the conclusion that they don't like monuments to their oppression? I don't care how you came to be a racist prick. You simply are one and a morally repugnant one at that.
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Old 08-16-2017, 10:40 PM
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Why do you care how they came to the conclusion that they don't like monuments to their oppression? I don't care how you came to be a racist prick. You simply are one and a morally repugnant one at that.
That's right. When all you logic sucks just cry racism.
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