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Old 08-14-2017, 11:26 AM
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Where are you getting this? You're hilarious, and your thin, weak efforts to falsely accuse and distort are pathetic. Again, does your unwillingness to "give a shit" about the Travon Martin case make you a racist? Since you're in the habit dishing crap like your comment above, I"ll suggest that you're a racist for not "giving a shit".
IIRC, I never said this about the Travon Martin case. I said it about the Michael Brown case. I said then that BLM picked the wrong poster child for their otherwise meaningful cause and that I had a hard time get worked up over Michael Brown getting shot under the circumstances of that case. That remains true.

I fail to see how that relates to our President who rode the Alt-Right/Breitbart train to the White House (along with fellow travelers Bannon, Miller and Gorka) and who refuses to call out the Alt-Right and neo-Nazis for their violent racism (that he has personally emboldened and empowered and for which they are grateful) and their anti-American values.

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No, but I would call it a lack of courage.
Speaking out against racism and hatred represents a lack of courage? Who knew? I guess that means that not speaking out against it is therefore courageous (and that your Dear Leader is thereby courageous). You have some pretty twisted values.
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Old 08-14-2017, 11:30 AM
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IIRC, I never said this about the Travon Martin case. I said it about the Michael Brown case. I said then that BLM picked the wrong poster child for their otherwise meaningful cause and that I had a hard time get worked up over Michael Brown getting shot under the circumstances of that case. That remains true.

I fail to see how that relates to our President who rode the Alt-Right/Breitbart train to the White House (along with fellow travelers Bannon, Miller and Gorka) and who refuses to call out the Alt-Right and neo-Nazis for their violent racism (that he has personally emboldened and empowered and for which they are grateful) and their anti-American values.



Speaking out against racism and hatred represents a lack of courage? Who knew? I guess that means that not speaking out against it is therefore courageous (and that your Dear Leader is thereby courageous). You have some pretty twisted values.
Apparently your problem is that he called out everybody, rather than just the side that you hate.
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Old 08-14-2017, 11:46 AM
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Old 08-14-2017, 11:51 AM
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The German Government is totally shocked about what happened in Charlotteville. The spokesman of Merkel said that all these Nazis and their outburst of sheer violence made her absolutely stunned.

In Germany all these Hakenkreuz morons would be locked up.
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Old 08-14-2017, 11:52 AM
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To call out everybody is to call out nobody.
So, the people who went there to disrupt have no responsibility for this mess whatsoever.

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Old 08-14-2017, 11:55 AM
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Adolf Trump is much more dangerous than the Barking Monster. The Barking Monster had no nuclear weapons.
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Old 08-14-2017, 11:59 AM
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Adolf Trump is much more dangerous than the Barking Monster. The Barking Monster had no nuclear weapons.
Neither does Trump. In addition, the American military swore/swears to uphold the Constitution, not Donald Trump. The German military swore allegiance to just one man. Very different dynamics.
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Old 08-14-2017, 12:02 PM
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So, the people who went there to disrupt have no responsibility for this mess whatsoever.

I love leftys.
The person responsible is the guy who caused the death and most, if not all, the injuries. The silver lining in this tragedy is that it didn't escalate into further violence.

BTW, I had aunts who made a distinction between white trash and poor white trash.
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Old 08-14-2017, 12:07 PM
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IIRC, I never said this about the Travon Martin case. I said it about the Michael Brown case. I said then that BLM picked the wrong poster child for their otherwise meaningful cause and that I had a hard time get worked up over Michael Brown getting shot under the circumstances of that case. That remains true.
Well, then, you said it about both cases. You're a racist twice. Congrats.

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I fail to see how that relates to our President who rode the Alt-Right/Breitbart train to the White House (along with fellow travelers Bannon, Miller and Gorka) and who refuses to call out the Alt-Right and neo-Nazis for their violent racism (that he has personally emboldened and empowered and for which they are grateful) and their anti-American values.
Because the BLM crowd and Antifa is just as racist as their counterparts in the white supremacist crowd.

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Speaking out against racism and hatred represents a lack of courage? Who knew? I guess that means that not speaking out against it is therefore courageous (and that your Dear Leader is thereby courageous). You have some pretty twisted values.
Speaking out against racism and hatred is always the right thing to do. What Frazier did, I think, was far more making a political statement that feeds into the divisiveness that was on display in Charlottesville....and here...and in the media.

You can piss and moan about Trump to call out the Alt-Right and neo-Nazis for their violent racism. Fact is that NOTHING Trump said over the weekend was wrong. It was accurate. There were "sides" on the streets Charlottesville on Saturday, and most of them had hate in their hearts. This isn't even arguable. Its folks like you who want to focus on only "one side" of the equation that are pushing divisiveness. Trump tried to focus on both sides, and while he didn't do it well, it was the right approach.

Neo-nazis, neo-fascists, white-supremacists use pretty much the same rhetoric and tactics that often result in violent outcomes as BLM, Antifa, and others. All of the above where present in Charlottesville on Saturday, and all appear to have come prepped and ready for violence. Sorry, but its true, and if you're going to condemn hate, racism and violence, make sure you're making an accurate accounting of all those who engage in it.
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Old 08-14-2017, 12:23 PM
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To call out everybody is to call out nobody.
How in the world does this make any sense in the Charlottesville scenario. Protesters on both "sides" showed up ready for a fight.
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